Talk:Billy Corgan

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Hey, guys, remember when dealing with album sales, even though Mellon Collie went 9 times platinum, it's a double album, and thus was counted twice for each sale. Thus, it sold 4.5 million copies, not 9. -- Underwater 20:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Cleanup

  • someone really needs to spend some time rewriting this artical. i'm doing the best i can when i can...
  • Cleanup of what? --Kerowyn 00:50, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The article looks fine to me...I don't see what needs cleaning up really. Is the tag needed?
  • Now that I look at it, I too am confused by the tag. Folkor 06:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Whats with The Coral in the first section?
  • I'm removing the Cleanup tag. There's really no need. -- Underwater 01:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Validity?!

I'm totally not buying into any of the stuff said in this artical. "His father was known to dress him up like a little girl, forcing him to masturbate to pictures of Scott Baio"?! What the hell?! I've read his confessions before, and I sure as hell don't remember Billy masturbating to Chachi anywhere in there. This is all vandalism, that we never noticed yet... We've got to fix up this artical. Bad. And maybe have links to the confessions confirming everything being said... Underwater 19:42, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

If you check the history that was all added by one user 72.16.148.195 about 4 hours before you read this article. It was vandalism and all edits by this user has been reverted. Good catch so I don't think that it needs to be flagged as disputed any more. If you still believe that it does please re-insert it and list the reasons why. Thanks -- UKPhoenix79 22:45, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Starchildren

Starchildren is on the orphan article list because nothing links to it. It claims to be a Billy Corgan side project. Can someone check it out and if true, link to it from some appropriate pages? Also add any good info, etc. Thanks. Thatcher131 19:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Starchildren is a real side project. Check out http://www.blamo.org/sp/starchildren/. --S-man 18:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Authenticity

How can we be sure that www.myspace.com/billycorgan is really Billy's? It says "Female, 106 years old." so I think that it's probably just a fake. Can someone clarify? --Lew19 14:24, 06 July 2006 (EST)

No, trust me. That's really his. He hasn't been on in forever, and his account on MySpace mysteriously screwed up and went from a "music" account to a normal account. Since bands don't actually have genders or age, Myspace kinda sticks them with a pointless birthday and gender, and that's why it says he's a 106 year old female. Underwater 00:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rumors

These rumors are obviously all fake with the exception of him turning to christianity. I would delete this myself, but I would rather have the consent of everyone

It doesn't seem very encyclopedic. I'd rather get rid of the false ones and rename the true one under a Trivia title. --Reaper X 18:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty to just remove the rumors section. Please do not put it back, unless it is a true "rumor" (I'd rather call it a fact), and you have a source. In that case, please add it in trivia format: bullet it, and put it under the title Trivia. Thanks. --Reaper X 19:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Equiptment

Does this section seem a bit superfluous to anyone else? It's not really necessary and it takes up a lot of space.

It's good info to know, since Billy used different equipment between the pumpkins, zwan and the future embrace.

Guys, please remember to sign your comments! And also, I'm guessing the person who said that this section is superfluous doesn't know much about guitars... I found the whole thing fascinating, but I can see why it seems pointless to somebody else. Underwater 00:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] really...

thought he grewup in GlenEllyn Countryside and went to Glenside Jr. High... seemed pretty cool then.

[edit] SP Reunion

About the changes I made. I moved the blurb about Corgan living with Courtney Love to the Post-Pumpkins section, as it has nothing to do with the reunion. I also rearranged the stuff of the signing of the management deal and the Melissa Auf der Maur interview, it happened in that order. I replaced the sources with the ones from The Smashing Pumpkins page to make that clearer. And I deleted the whole Eric Avery thing, as that turned out to be false (see the original post that sparked the rumor and the correction afterward on the Polar Bear website). I perhaps should have added he tried out for the band, but I didnt see it as necessary. and the PR-Inside report does not meet Wikipedia:Verifiability, so I removed all that crap. --Reaper X 22:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Rival"??

As his rival, Kurt Cobain, also used this guitar frequently...

His "rival"? WTF? The article includes only one other mention of Cobain, and that's to describe a similarity between Cobain and Corgan. This alleged "rivalry" needs an explanation with citations, or else a swift deletion. Cribcage 22:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, "rival"...I strongly disagree with that as well. --Reaper X 22:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] That ad picture

Is there any reason this article actualy need to keep this image arouncd :Image:Billy Corgan - Tribune Ad.jpg? If so the thumbnail version is pointles, there should be only one copy of the image and reducing the image in size to comply with the fair use policy is pointles if we are going to keep the high-resolution version around anyway. I think the article will be just fine just describing the gist of the ad without the need to have the full text available so I tagged the big one as orphanded. If anyone have a compelling reason for why beeing eable to read the full text of the add is crutial to this article please bake it into a fair use rationale and use the big one directly. Personaly I don't think it's needed though, the ad is basicaly just another source and there is no need to quote it in entierty inline. --Sherool (talk) 10:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ironically?

What in God's name is ironic about Corgan's first axe being a used Gibson Les Paul? If there is an irony there it ought to be explained.

please sign your posts with four tildes (Tinkstar1985 13:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)).