Talk:Beyond Good & Evil (video game)

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Contents 1 Developer 2 Trilogy 3 Merging 4 Soundtrack 5 Fan fiction removed 6 Trivia 7 This link keeps getting removed which shouldn't happen 8 Priority debate 9 "Original" language clue 10 Beyond good and evil userbox! 11 Social commentary

[edit] Developer

The game's credits make no mention of Montpellier, France so far as I can tell, but they do mention Ubisoft Milan. Are we sure that it was developed in Montpellier and not Milan? -IndigoAK200 15:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trilogy

Ubisoft have officialy announced a sequel, and that this game will form part of a trilogy.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by StephenCrowley (talk • contribs).

Yeeeeessssss. I will buy it - no doubt. Then maybe we can understand that cliff hanger ending. Hopefully, there will be more Segundo, everyone's favorite Spanish-accented talking hologram. :) -Hyad 29 June 2005 07:32 (UTC) "One of these days, Jade, bang. Zoom. Straight to the moon."

I believe the original poster is in error. Ubisoft had originally planned a sequel, but cancelled their plans due to poor sales.Nandesuka 29 June 2005 14:38 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess you're right. I didn't release how old the first post was. Well I can guess we can always hope anyway. (Maybe Xbox 360 or PS3?) I've put some discussion board links below. -Hyad 30 June 2005 04:00 (UTC)

• No Beyond Good & Evil Trilogy
• Discussion Board 1
• Discussion Board 2

Actually, Michael Ancel originally planned a trilogy. At the moment BG&E 2 and 3 seem unlikely, but who knows. Jordi·✆ 18:16, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Can we delete or archive this outdated nonsense? 24.220.78.243 18:56, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

That was me - Kitarra 18:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merging

Is there an article for all versions or just both? Either way I'm for the merger (especially if we can merge all versions) since in essence, the game is the same on every platform Tigeriz

Either it should be merged or the Xbox entry should be heavily modified as it doesn't fit the NPOV policy at all. I'm all for it. Tigermave 00:53, 1 February 2006 (UTC)Tigermave

I went ahead and redirected it. There was nothing salvagable. Thunderbrand 00:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Good call. Tigermave 01:15, 1 February 2006 (UTC)Tigermave

[edit] Soundtrack

I've been searching all around the web for the two "rock" tracks from this game (you know: the only tracks with lyrics, the tracks that play when installing the game, the tracks that play when racing). Musicbrainz has an ASIN for Amazon, but Amazon doesn't recognize it, and I can't even tell what the title of the two songs are from Musicbrainz, the credits, or the package. Heck, I'd be happy with just the credits for those two tracks at this point (I used to want a transcript and translation of the non-English lyrics, but that was over a year ago). I also have gotten no response from my email to Ubisoft. Both songs have a message, but that message is easy to miss when 1)it's in a language I don't understand, and 2)I'm trying to not get creamed by various game elements. If anyone has a source, put it below or let me know (also, if anyone has had a better response from Ubisoft, let me know and I'll send them another email). Durty Willy 04:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I believe the songs you're referring to are "Akuda House Propaganda" (which plays during installation IIRC) and "Slaughterhouse Scramble". Hope that helps! --Film11 17:05, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Awesome Film11, that's more than UbiSoft was able to tell me! I suppose it's not suprising, since the soundtrack wasn't commonly available to begin with, and now it's vanished even from eBay. Maybe I need to send a letter, in French, to Christophe Heral (the composer of the soundtrack-at-large) just asking him for the lyrics. Anyone else have any ideas?--Durty Willy 16:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is legal as long as you legally own the game...you could extract the audio files from the sally.bf file and play them through your favourite media player. There is a program that extracts stuff from the files somewhere, but I've forgotten the location. Green451 17:00, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

UbiSoft released some mp3s for free on a website, though that site became pay/subscription based or something, but the files are mirrored here. -Anonymous 19:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I've added a website in the external links section (www.stormeffect.com) that has the full CD audio extraction in a .rar format as well as an additional song. 24.91.196.107 04:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fan fiction removed

The below, posted by user:Splinter90, looks like fan fiction to me. It is removed from the article proper. -- Jordi·✆ 18:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

After Pey'j has transformed into a DomZ, Jade must make a terrible decision: kill her best friend or allow Pey'j to destroy Hyllis. In the end Jade chooses to kill Pey'j for the greater good and after this she leaves the planet for a spiritual retreat.

Years later when she returns from the Medusa Galaxy she is terrified to see what Hyllis has become. A few months after Jade's departure, a meteorite hit the planet and nearly destroyed the entire planet. The Factory, the Slaughterhouse and large parts of the city dissapeared into the sea. The IRIS-network declared themselfs as Hyllis' last hope. With Hyllis under the ruling of the IRIS-network they built a new city above the ruins of the old one. The Lighthouse was demolished and was now shelter for those who weren't allowed to enter New Hyllis. The skyline of New Hyllis was dominated by the IRIS-network building. The building was visible from every place in the city and belonged to the most important people in the city: the IRIS-network. the Factory now functioned as the network's personal research facility. Here, scientist of the IRIS-network looked for a way to improve the planetary defense systems.

When Jade arrives at New Hyllis, she is taken for an enemy and cast to the old Lighthouse, there she learns the horrible truth about what happened to her beloved planet. Now Jade must fight her way through New Hyllis to once again uncover the truth behind the IRIS-network and ultimately confront them.

But what Jade doesn't know is that the meteorite contained DomZ essence, and her presence has activated them...

http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2005/12/top-20-games-that-nobody-played-but.html

Good going to the moron who put "best game that nobody played". Reword that to something less idiotic.

[edit] Trivia

Removed the line "BG&E is like kya dark lineage in many ways, for one they both have female protaganists and two they both didn't have good sales.", due to its fairly broad categories for comparison. Many games also have female protagonists and/or poor sales, Daikatana and several of the Tomb Raider series for instance, yet they're not referenced. If you're going to compare two texts, at least use appropriate issues for comparison. I haven't played either game, but I suspect that the terms of comparison are the combination of thematic style, graphics, and gameplay - perhaps someone who has played both could add a proper entry. Nasajin 03:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This link keeps getting removed which shouldn't happen

okay i am a member of this forum http://s15.invisionfree.com/onemorechance/index.php? and i put the link for it in external links becuase it has to do with BG&E but someone keeps getting rid of it saying it's spam and that it has nothing to do with BG&E but this is not true at all the forum is atleast a quarter of BG&E, can someone tell me that it does have BG&E and has no need to be removed or atleast a really really good reason why not.

-- It's a discussion board. It has no factual or otherwise useful content other than discussions on this game, and even then as you say it's "only a quarter" to do with the game. Linking to it is therefore essentially advertising it's existence. You are not adding anything to the article by providing this link; if people want to view discussion forums on this game there are a lot more out there with far larger user bases to choose from, including the official ones, and all are free accessible via a search engine. Linking to an official forum would likely be acceptable of course. It is from this that is conclusive that your link is spam and should not be on this page.

Plus, the majority of that site is devoted to a multitude of franchises that have nothing to do with BG&E. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the person who linked to that site cared more about advertising than improving the quality of this article.Theodorel 21:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Priority debate

I would argue that Beyond Good & Evil deserves better than a "low" priority in the cvg project, as it was the first game to utilize the very powerful Jade engine. Being a relatively unknown game, I wouldn't want to bump it up too far on the scale, but I think that in terms of what it's contributed to the gaming world it should probably get upped a notch. Although, someone who's a bit more literate on the subject than I am should probably add a good section on the Jade engine first. 24.220.78.243 18:54, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Again, that was me, sorry. Kitarra 18:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Original" language clue

It is unclear what the "original" language of the game is, although it is most likely that it would be French, given that the game was written and designed by French designers in France. This is one of the few games available on the market that gives practically no clues as to the native language, as everything is localized, including signs.

It appears, at least in the PC version, that the shapes the characters' mouths make while speaking during cutscenes follow English pronunciation no matter what language is currently selected. Can anyone else confirm this?

[edit] Beyond good and evil userbox!

Made it myself.

{{User:Hotspot/userbox/Beyondgood&evil}} hotspot

Nice! --MrStalker 22:34, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!-hotspot

[edit] Social commentary

I removed the "Social commentary" section. It has been tagged Original Research / Unattributed Statements for two weeks, but no sources were added. Besides, the contents were hardly noteworthy, and looking through the history of the page, I found it had attracted a couple of crank theories earlier. — 213.47.127.75 22:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)