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[edit] ASIN?

Please see my question at Talk:Amazon Standard Identification Number in regard to your recent edit at Perfection of Wisdom. -- कुक्कुरोवाच|Talk‽ 08:07, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hi. Please remember to write in complete sentences. Check out the Wikipedia:Manual of Style for more tips. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 16:53, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Human

I'm not sure about the sentence you added to the human artilce. "Many of these religions and spiritualities also view humans in a different fascion, in Buddhism, for example, humans are all sentient beings in Human realm." Different from what? - Nat Krause 15:41, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Different from the way the word "Human" is normally used. So somebody can be a human (at least in some traditions or in theory) and share absolutely no genetical relation to a homo sapien, at the same time somebody with the homo sapien body might not be in a Human realm. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)
That's an interesting point. However, your addition to the human article doesn't make it very clearly, and the human realm article doesn't mention it, and I've never heard it before, either (although it sounds plausible on the face of it). What's your source on this? - Nat Krause 16:22, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Well "Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" would mention it, and also probably any other Buddhist text discussing Bardo and Samsara, if you want websites... at this point i can only find this [1], now it's not exactly what i was looking for, but you can still see that Sravaka-yana (Spiritual Discipleship) is a separate realm, now the person in that realm can still appear homo sapien biologically (although there will be some changes on the level of shakras). Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)
Interesting. It appears that ultimately, the description that website gives is from the Lotus Sutra. It brings up an interesting question, though: is a Sravaka really genetically Homo sapiens? Can a Sravaka be said to possess genes? - Nat Krause 07:44, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
OK, i have two things to say to that. One is this discussion is pushing my knowledge of the issue to its limits, therefore i will probably need to consult a person i know who has in fact received Mahayana lineage (sp?) teaching, and who is a Boddhisatva, and who will know the propper answer to this; another one is that even if genetics do not exist on that level... i would guess that would probably not be needed on that stage, Human realm is still defined by doubt rather than genetics, therefore, genes, although play significan role in the definition of the human from the perspective of science, will not from the Buddhist perspective. But i don't want this to get into an argument where i don't know all the facts, so i'll (asap) get ahold of an "expert" q;-) Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)
Well, just to clarify, my point is, is there a difference between "doubt" and "genes" or are they different ways of describing the same thing? Further, the article isn't necessarily just about a scientific view of humanity, so it's not necessarily necessary to distinguish the Buddhist view as distinct from everything else in the article. - Nat Krause 08:28, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
There is definately difference. But once again i will come back to it... probably tomorrow (if i'll get ahold of my "expert"). Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)
It ends up that my edit to the Human page was... well misleading and incorrect. However, somebody has already removed it with the simple reference to Human realm. I stand corrected. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] User:Beta m/Deletionaholics

Please see Wikipedia:No personal attacks. RickK 10:09, Feb 3, 2005 (UTC)

Read the policy, changed the page. It would be nice if you don't {{vfd}} page right away, but actually try to contact the author and possibly resolve the conflict. I do understand that we are all Wikipedians, and i might have been a little hot to start listing people, but you must admit that it was possible for me to take a personal offence to what you have done and to just start going around blanking pages... Please look at my page and at my contributions, it is my belief that i did in fact contribute to Wikipedia enough not to be treated like that. I'll post the copy of this on your user page. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)

[edit] Signing

I thought I'd let you know that you forgot to sign your vote on the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Chinese ethnocentrism page. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:21, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)


[edit] Responses to Survey Answers

Really? Why the Swiss? That is odd. Would you happen to know off hand where I could find this information?

BTW - I saw on your talk page that you have anarcho-primitivism listed as a page you would like to contribute to. The article is currently lacking any real in-depth knowledge and has recently been edited a good deal by folks who admit they know little or nothing about it. There was also an attempt to merge it with primitive communism, which I aborted. Anyway, you might want to give it a look in the near future as it needs to be fleshed out. Kev 22:52, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] paniq on VfD

Hi Beta m— There is an interesting discussion regarding paniq over on VfD. I was hoping you could review the article and perhaps contribute a vote? —RaD Man (talk) 17:02, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Animal testing

You should assume good faith, Beta. There was some kind of editing glitch. I found vandalism, reverted it, checked my edit, and saw the vandalism was still there. I therefore deleted it again, using delete instead of revert. There are a lot of weird revert and save glitches going on today. SlimVirgin 18:46, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

As far as I can make out, Beta M made an edit to the page without noticing the vandalism; SlimVirgin was in the process of reverting the vandalism, and an edit conflict produced the weird result. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:48, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Mel. The same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago at Anti-Semitism, where I now have this delightful contribution attributed to my name, when in fact I was reverting it. Beta, I'm normally not the sort of editor who would add "I kill my mums rabbits for tea," but if I had, I'd have used the apostrophe. SlimVirgin 19:04, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
Hah! If I were the sort of person who wrote “lol” I'd have written it now. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 19:10, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I did assume good faith, after all you did revert it, my first thought was that somebody was using your login name. It can happen if you were to use a public computer and forgot to logout. My intention was to sound confused not harsh, if i have failed to convey what i was trying to say, i'm sorry. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)
No worries, Beta. SlimVirgin 06:03, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Italy and bicontinental

Why did you add Category:Bicontinetal country to Italy article? It is a single continent country, as far as I know.--Panairjdde

[edit] Commons images not CSD eligible

Hi. I have noticed you have placed a number of speedy delete requests on images that have been copied to Commons. By policy, such images cannot be speedy deleted. Please make such image deletions requests on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion where they will be deleted in 7 days unless objections are raised. The only possible exceptions to this policy are those where you have uploaded to the English Wiki, no one has made any changes to the image description page and the image is not being used in an article. Thanks. RedWolf 03:46, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HIV: Epidemic - Pandemic

Hi, i'm not being picky, just thought you should know this litte fact since you've mentioned it when editing Africa article. HIV is not an epidemic because it's global, and as such qualifies to be a pandemic. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)

Thanks for the terminology check ... we should get the terms right. Would HIV/AIDS then be considered epidemic in a geographical region (such as Africa) but pandemic overall?
Courtland 18:40, 2005 Apr 5 (UTC)
I don't know everything about the issue, but from what i understand, HIV1 is pandemic, while HIV2 is epidemic (since there's been no cases outside of Africa so far. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)

[edit] Signature

Hi there! In the interest of reducing server load, it is discouraged to use a template as your signature (e.g. {{user:beta m/sig}}). You can click on 'preferences' to change your signature to your heart's content. Yours, Radiant_* 09:30, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Université de Montréal

In answer to your question at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 May 21, the university's website refers to the university as the Université de Montréal even on the English version of its site and its English-language press releases. - Cafemusique 10:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD for Genesis 1:2

Beta_m, at first I thought you cast two votes on this VfD. The edit history for that VfD has fluctuated, which seems to randomly omit or re-attribute edits. I'm not sure why that's happening. My apologies for having made the claim on the VfD that you voted twice. Mindmatrix 21:35, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Boilerplate votes

I suggest you review your vote at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Alexander MacGregor. What's being discussed there are two articles: a somewhat-slanderous biography, and a possibly-slanderous article on a vocational institute with little verifiable information about it. Your templated vote about witch hunts is looking rather silly there. --Carnildo 07:37, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

  • It is generally frowned upon to use templates for voting, because it leads to people voting based on priciples rather than based on the article's merit. If you must use that template for voting, at least put a "subst:" in front of your vote because otherwise someone might change your template to read "Delete. An utterly non-notable school. Schools have no place in Wikipedia and this one in particular is a dreadful article and must be deleted." Suddenly all your keep votes will have turned to delete votes... Sjakkalle 09:53, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

I saw you've been changing some redirects around. I'm not sure why, but I saw that you're doing it partly wrong. In a direct link you can link to a section, i. e. User talk:Beta m#Redirects would link to this section. However you can't link to sections with redirects - they only go to the top of the article. If a section is worth directly linking to there's a chance it's worth it's own article. If not, just redirect to the article and hope the reader finds the right section. Cheers, -Willmcw 22:49, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

It still makes sense to create section redirects. One of these years, they may actually work. --Carnildo 23:25, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks, Willmcw, i didn't know that, but as Carnildo said "One of these years" they just might work. In fact when i'll get some time i'll put it a suggestion for that fix. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)

[edit] Lolicon

Hi. How does lolicon fit in category:Childlove? 24 at 18:23, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Anarchism

Are these links not accessible already as standard weblinks? if not .. i apologise as i was concentrating on the main body of the article --max rspct 17:49, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

np, peace Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)

[edit] Freenet

I find your addition of freenet links inadmissible. I admit that I may be wrong. Please defend your position at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. mikka (t) 18:49, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Since I seem to be being overridden, please supply your template with a link to the page that gives instruction of establishing freenet access, including alternative ways, mentioned at the "incidents" noticeboard. mikka (t) 20:55, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Yikes! It seems that I have stumbled into something bigger than I imagined. I saw your freenet link at Subvertizing, felt uncomfortable about its inclusion (it uses technology that is not yet generally adopted or stable) and proposed that the link be deleted. I came here out of courtesy and find that you are inserting such links as part of a "campaign" which is itself only a proposal. Please would you consider waiting until your proposal becomes a guideline before continuing to enact your campaign. —Theo (Talk) 23:27, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

This sounds reasonable, i will not add any more links to the articles until some sort of consensus or agreement is reached. You don't happen to know wikipedia well enough for me to bring this discussion to attention of people who might be interested in it, do you? I just think that the discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Beta_m_and_his_freenet_spamming isn't trully useful, since most ppl don't eve know about that place. Thank you for being polite. Beta_M talk, |contrib (Ë-Mail)
You could try to solicit comments by posting a message to WikiEN-L. Before doing that, however, I suggest that you move your policy proposal out of your user space into the Wikipedia namespace with the template "Proposed". (And on another matter, please do not use a transcluded page as your signature; it places an unnecessary load on the servers, which may be free to users but still involve costs to the Foundation.) —Theo (Talk) 10:24, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sig

Hey there, your sig seems a little broken, for example on Template_talk:Europe it breaks the vote count because it starts on a new line. Could you fix it please, if you're still around? Cheers, Joolz 15:01, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I'm nominating "Empanda (disambig)" for deletion

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Regards, JohnI 10:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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