Talk:Bess (censorware)
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[edit] US v. ALA
I changed the wording here to read "being too aggressive in its filtering procedures, not being aggressive enough in its filtering procedures, and violating the First Amendment, though this was proven false in US v. ALA, 539 U.S. 194, 2003." to "being too aggressive in its filtering procedures or not being aggressive enough in its filtering procedures. Others have accused Bess and other filters of violating the First Amendment. However, it was decided in US v. ALA, 539 U.S. 194, 2003 that this argument is unfounded." It seems to me that judicial decisions are never proofs, but are authoritative, arbitrary decisions. 128.151.253.249 00:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC) (Sorry forgot to login) Peedl 00:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia blocked by Bess?
Just trying to justify the edit about Bess blocking WIkipedia. According to Bess' website, Wikipedia.org is in the Education exception category and is not blocked. Is this true on every system which uses Bess?
No it is not.
-You're right, as I am using Wikipedia from my school's system(which uses Bess). To make the article more accurate, I have changed "Note that Wikipedia is blocked by Bess." to "Note that Wikipedia is blocked by Bess on some systems.".- Emerald 00:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Since this line keeps getting added, edited, and removed, can we agree on a particular wording? Here's my vote. - Peedl 01:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
- The Bess system allows administrators to block sites of their choosing. Wikipedia is blocked on some Bess systems, depending on local decisions.
- I think it's funny how everytime i try to go to a site that opposes bess, the site is blocked for "p2p/loophole" Hawaiianchief
proxify.net is used to bypass bess
As of 6.15.06, proxify.net is blocked by Bess (under their category: anonymizers)
most of your school internet accounts are blocked by the local area network connection. The local area network section(lan) is set to use the proxy server of there choice. By removing that then you bypass the server and can go onto the internet. Most schools have blocked students from accessing those features but by pressing F1 on the keyboard then going to options and then internet options, connection, lan settings the settings can be changed
Bess blocks Wikipedia on my school's system, as it contains "personal pages", though it only blocks the English and Spanish versions; and for the reason (I am assuming though correct me if I'm wrong) that they are the two Wikipedias with the most content. Quite a shame, as Wikipedia really is the best source for school reports, and I trust most of the content relating to science, history, etc., topics I'd typically have to write about. --Wikiwøw 22:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] move to Bess (internet filtering software)
Censorware is in my opinion a derogatory term, which violates WP:NPOV. I believe that the use of 'internet filtering software' is a better usage and a more neutral one. I'd like to start a poll on whether the page should be moved. ~crazytales56297.chasing cars//e 12:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment- In my opinion, censorware is just as neutral a name as "web-flitering software", despite the word censorship 's negative connotations. However, I can't say whether I would object or support the move, considering I don't know what's the most commonly used or acurate term, though that should be the title of this article. Though, for future reference, it's best not to group together support, object, and comment on these discussions like you had done. --Wikiwøw 22:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
The list seems to contradict itself many times over.216.186.53.212 19:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] The Bias opinion
This article is bias it only gives a point of veiw from the bess company everyone that has ever had to deal with bess knows of its scandals in the past and its censure issues with organizations like peacefire. I believe That information should be included in the article so that it is no longer bias.
-- danieljackson (tlk) (cntrbtns) 06:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with you that this should definitely be included. I don't know if everyone who has used Bess knows about the scandals, but most users probably do know about how damaging its blocking procedures are to education and to sanity. I don't think anything in the article is biased towards the Bess company but it would be much improved if it had a section on conflicts with organizations and more specific examples of critique besides what is listed. -- Peedl 00:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm interested. But tread carefully. A quick Google search produced for me only pro and anti Bess sites, nothing unbiased. One site was called "The Official Anti-Bess Site," for example. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 03:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Move to Bess (content-control software)
Folks, this must be moved to Bess (content-control software) and references to censorware must be removed based on, and because the issue is already addressed in, Content-control software. The wording there and in the Talk pages applies here as well. Someone please do this. Thank you. --LegitimateAndEvenCompelling 06:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
