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[edit] Sutton Hoo
- Thanks for that, how very interesting that is about the maternal grandparents. Has anyone mentioned this (in respect of Raedwald) in print; or can you supply a reference directly to this custom? I agree it is worth mentioning. Actually Newton's theory is several theories: he's interested in the fact that Wealhtheow may have been from Britain, and I think his best line of argument is the suggested identity of Hrothmund of the East Anglian dynastic tally and Hrothmund the son of Hrothgar. Sam is a Wuffing addict! A single sentence could express your point effectively, provided it has a reference: otherwise it will 'float' and look like a theory. Best wishes Berig, Dr Steven Plunkett 06:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- vis-a-vis the fostering (or knesetja?) topic, the nearest I have got so far is a section in Paul du Chaillu's The Viking Age (London 1889) Vol II, pp 42-46. He says
He cites the adoption of Sigurd by King Hjalprek, with Regin as his foster-father, in Volsunga Saga chapter 13; also Olaf's fostering of Thorleik's son in Laxdaela chapter 27, and the story of Aethelstan of England and Harald Fairhair in Fagrskinna, chapters 21-2. One's a bit mythic and the other two a bit late, but this will do at a pinch, and can be improved upon if something better turns up. I'll slip a sentence or two in and you can amend as you like. I wish I knew my way round this material better. I like your explanation very much. Dr Steven Plunkett 12:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)It was the general custom among the chiefs and other leading men not to have the children reared at home, but to have them educated with some distinguished friend for the future duties of life. Those who received them were bound to treat them as their own children, with love and kindness; and there are many examples in the Sagas of the great love of the fosterparents for their foster-children.
- vis-a-vis the fostering (or knesetja?) topic, the nearest I have got so far is a section in Paul du Chaillu's The Viking Age (London 1889) Vol II, pp 42-46. He says
- Thanks for reply. I can see them waving goodbye with their handkerchiefs from some wyrm-girt sea-ness! Some authorities (whose opinion I share) feel that the Snape ship-burial is the first of the three in East Anglia, i.e. second half of 6th century, which would make this family's connections with Eystein & co go back a generation or two. The close tie between Sutton Hoo mounds 1 and 2 have always seemed to me that the person buried in Mound 1 (?Raedwald) was buried (like Scyld) swa he sylfe baed, and the ship above the chamber in Mound 2 was a sort of experiment conducted by the same person in a previous funeral, perhaps for his father, which was then improved and perfected for his own. But if Snape was earlier, there must have been many people around who could remember it, or hearing about it, so the custom was already understood. And the precise die-link with the Mound 2 drinking horns and the probable similar shield there do reinforce the idea that these supposed gifts related precisely to one family. All very interesting. I'll be gone from Wiki now for a couple of weeks, but look forward to getting back to it. Keep up the good work, your articles on Hrolf Kraki and co are extremely useful and models of impartiality! Best wishes, Dr Steven Plunkett 09:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sigurd
You're right, Arminius isn't a german or teutonic name. It's in fact a latin name that derives from the word armenium a vivid blue, ultramarine pigment made from a stone from Armenia, due to the piercing blue eyes of Sigurd, a feature which many among the Germanic peoples have to this day. I think it's important to mention that in the article. But to this date, I haven't find the way to incorporate this information to the article. Being the one who had an objection about my first attempt, have you a suggestion on how to formulate it in the article? Your help will be appreciated. If you have some, leave your suggestions on my talk page please. FenrisUlven 15:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sigurd Arminius
I understand your point of view, and I have a great respect for your detail to the ethics. I just want to ask you if it's possible to include a paragraph that suppose or theorize a little bit more deeper than just puuting a link to the Arminius article at the bottom of the Sigurd article? There is surely a way we can expose it without the state of indeniable fact. The people who use wikipedia.eng must know about that. Thank you for your attention. For my part, I'm searching for reliable sources... FenrisUlven 18:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Don't forget 'Irmin'
Arminius's name may derive from the proto-Germanic name which became 'Irmin' which means power, and thus may not come from a Latin word but instead be a Latinisation of a name with 'power' in it. 86.140.250.47 12:17, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] When you edit
Hi Berig. Thanks for your contributions to various articles.
When you make contributions to articles dealing with the history of Sweden, could you please reference them (inline references as best)? This would be most helpful for us non-historians, for example when dealing with people advocating alternative historical theories. It is especially valuable concerning topics that are so full of misconceptions as the early Swedish history.
Fred-Chess 15:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- If you find any edits controversial, feel free to add this kind of tag: {{fact}}, as that will help me and others identify the spots where you need to go to the library to check out facts. Best,--Berig 15:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DYK
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On 2 February 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kjárr, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
--Yomanganitalk 12:15, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] GOOD-BYE!!!
I was convinced that I was defending referenced information in the article Kjárr which I had written and nominated for DYK. After a discussion at Scandinavia, User:Dusis was disrupting the aricle to make a point. User:Circeus stepped in and protected the page in Dusis' version which made me understand that he considered me to be in the wrong. I obviously have no grasp of Wikipedia policies and consequently I rid WP of my existence so that its quality will be better maintained. Good bye everyone.--Berig 08:58, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Berig, you are one of the best editors I interact with at Wikipedia. The bureaucracy and arbitrary enforcement of policies is maddening, and obviously some users know how to play the system to antagonize those with a low threshold for bullshit. Don't give them the satisfaction. Take a break and come back when the flies aren't so thick on all of the bullshit. Well wishes. - WeniWidiWiki 09:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
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- Berig, you are a kind, constructive, helpful, polite, erudite, and extremely useful editor. Please stay with it. I have only been with wikipedia a month, but I know already it needs people like yourself to stay on board. Hang in there if you possibly can. Dr Steven Plunkett 09:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'd agree with the gentlemen above. I'm sure lots of other editors would too, if they were aware of the situation. Please reconsider! The admin simply protects the current version of the page [with a few exceptions for biographies of living people). It doesn't mean they judged the issue in any way. Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Take some time off, relax. "No-one can do everything but everyone can do something." / Fred-Chess 00:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Níðuðr, was selected for DYK!
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On February 3, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Níðuðr, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page. |
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 22:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Mythical doesnt equal Myth
@Berig I didnt mean anything degrading or negative when i used the term mythical. I thaught it was the right term for the lombard saga, legend. Because to me the title Lombard Traditions seems more like an annual fiest of the lombards rather than an epic story. So i didnt mean anything bad by it. -- Lll03
[edit] Berig, sorry
I didn't realize that the page been edited before I saved..kept the page open too long while being distracted by other things in real time. I'll go back now and fix it whatever I deleted by mistake. Sorry. I've been waiting for you. ;) Knew you'd have valuable info on that subject.. struggling with this alone is miserable, and time consuming. Pia 22:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll check out those links ASAP. Sweet dreams. Pia 22:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sigurd Ring and Battle of Brávellir
Sorry but i really cant find cited sources on the old version. Are you the same as User:Wiglaf? --Arigato1 23:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I move the discussion, here. Well, if you have a look at the article Sigurd Ring, it summarizes primary sources and cites Birger Nerman's book as a secondary source. Your additions, Commanche/Arigato1, do not appear in these sources.--Berig 23:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, i have read most of these original sources and maybe you should do the same. --Arigato1 10:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Great then we should not have any disputes, right?--Berig 10:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Thats right. Then please dont change it back to unsourced pov version :o). --Arigato1 10:54, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sorry to see you've left
I for one found your material very interesting. Whatever you do, take care. Valentinian T / C 21:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
