Talk:Bernard Freyberg, 1st Baron Freyberg

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I have moved this page back to Bernard Freyberg as it conforms with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles) -- Popsracer 04:43 20 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Actually, these seem to indicate that the format A B, nth of X be generally used, except in the case of life peers, which Freyberg was not. -- Lord Emsworth 01:49, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)

There was a big vote on this matter not too long ago, and I'm fairly certain that the outcome supported the "most common name" rule. Bernard Freyberg's most common name was and is Bernard Freyberg. -- Vardion 07:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Actually, policy is to use the peerage unless the person concerned is known universally without it, as is the case with many British Prime Ministers, for instance. "Lord Freyberg" gets more than a thousand Google hits, and so the non-peerage form is not universal. Proteus (Talk) 07:21, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

But what is the origin of this "policy"? The vote (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Peerage/Archived_talk_3 approved exceptions to the use of peerage titles, but the idea that peerage titles should automatically be included unless "unheard of" seems to have been put forward solely by User:John Kenney (after, not during, the poll). I do not believe that there was any consensus to support this "policy" - the poll approved exceptions, but didn't specify whether they should be common or rare. That was determined afterwards, and without any substantial input from the community. I'm not going to move this page just yet, but I don't consider this "policy" to be valid (yet), and suggest that the matter be brought up at the Village Pump for general consideration. -- Vardion 07:39, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Dentist

Regarding my Persondata entry on Freyberg--he was indeed a dentist at one point. Thr Dictionary of New Zealand Biography on Freyberg notes:

"Freyberg’s aspiration to be a doctor died with his early departure from school, and he was apprenticed to a Wellington dentist. He was admitted to the Dentists’ Register of New Zealand on 22 May 1911. His first post was as an assistant and locum tenens in Morrinsville, and he would later practise in Hamilton and Levin."

It actually describes him as "Dentist, military leader, governor general" Hehe :D Greentubing 08:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I removed it thinking it was somebody's weird sense of humour. I stand corrected. Leithp 08:22, 29 January 2006 (UTC)