Talk:Berlin Conference

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Some history is at Berlin Conference (now a disambig page)

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My humble apologies - I turned the above original into a disambig before I discovered "Move page" or dared brave its dire warnings of the potential consequences of use. For the record, the article is almost wholly the fine work of MyRedDice - I may have added half a sentence. Graculus 14:30, 10 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Thanks Graculus - though I took most of the text from History of Africa anyway... :) Martin

[edit] Translation

• Article: de:Kongokonferenz
• Corresponding English-language article: Berlin Conference
• Worth doing because: At least twice the length of the English article.
• Originally Requested by: Jmabel 03:28, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)
• Status: Done by User:Mpolo
• Other notes: This is a case where we could fill in some of our under-coverage of African history simply by translating an article. -- Jmabel 03:28, Sep 25, 2004 (UTC)

- Jmabel 01:52, Sep 26, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Invitees

quote (source unknown):

"Not only did Bismarck seize territory on both sides of the continent, but in October 1884 he joined with France to invite twelve other states to a conference in Berlin"

Not currently reflected in the article. --Dittaeva 13:27, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Currently in the article:

...while Germany declared Togo, Cameroon and Southwest Africa to be under its protection in 1884.

The conference

Leopold II was able to convince France and Germany that common trade in Africa was in the best interests of all three countries. Otto von Bismarck, German Chancellor, called on representatives of the United States of America, Austria-Hungary, Belgium, Denmark, France, Great Britain, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, Spain, Sweden-Norway (union until 1905) and Zanzibar to take part in the Berlin Conference to work out policy.

That seems to cover both points in the unattributed quote. Maybe "declared under his protection" is too weak -- someone would have to look that up, obviously. (Since the info in the article came from German WP, it might tend to be more positive toward Germany...) The list of invitees, which includes France, is 13 countries, so corresponding to your info. Mpolo 14:35, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Number of countries who attended and their enumeration

Someone had placed Zanzibar among the attendees. This seems to be wrong (and is also therefore now mirrored all over the net). See [1]. The attendees were His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia, Otho, Prince von Bismarck, his President of the Prussian Council of Ministers, Chancellor of the Empire; Paul, Count von Hatzfeldt, his Minister of State and Secretary for Foreign Affairs; Auguste Busch, his Acting Privy Councillor of Legation and Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs; and Henri von Kusserow, Privy Councillor of Legation in the Department for Foreign Affairs ; His Majesty the Emperor of Austria, King of Bohemia, etc., and Apostolic King of Hungary, Emeric, Count Szechenyi de Sarvari Felsoe-Videk, Chamberlain and Acting Privy Councillor, his Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; His Majesty the King of the Belgians, Gabriel Auguste Count van der Straten Ponthoz, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia; and Auguste, Baron Lambermont, Minister of State, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary ; His Majesty the King of Denmark, Emile de Vind, Chamberlain, his Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; His Majesty the King of Spain, Don Francisco Merry y Colom, Count Benomar, his Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; The President of the United States of America, John A. Kasson, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the United States of America at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia; and Henry S. Sanford, ex-Minister; The President of the French Republic, Alphonse, Baron de Courcel, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of France at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; Her Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Empress of India, Sir Edward Baldwin Malet, her Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; His Majesty the King of Italy, Edward, Count de Launay, his Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; His Majesty the King of the Netherlands, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, Frederic Philippe, Jonkheer van der Hoeven, his Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; His Majesty the King of Portugal and the Algarves, etc., Da Serra Gomes, Marquis de Penafiel, Peer of the Realm, his Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia; and Antoine de Serpa Pimentel, Councillor of State and Peer of the Realm; His Majesty the Emperor of all the Russias, Pierre, Count Kapnist, Privy Councillor, his Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the King of the Netherlands; His Majesty the King of Sweden and Norway, etc., Gillis, Baron Bildt, Lieutenant-General, his Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia ; His Majesty the Emperor of the Ottomans, Mehemed Said Pasha, Vezir and High Dignitary, his Envoy Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary at the Court of His Majesty the German Emperor, King of Prussia. - Nunh-huh 13:33, 10 November 2005 (UTC)