Talk:Bergen-Belsen concentration camp
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 10:53, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
Bergen-Belsen → Bergen-Belsen concentration camp : To follow pattern of other concentration camp article titles.
[edit] Voting
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Oppose - it was a POW, not a concentration camp until 1942. --Lysytalk 21:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)- Comment : It is foremostly as a concentration camp that Bergen-Belsen is remembered. This does not preclude its role as a POW camp being included in the article. David Kernow 23:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support - for above reasons. LuiKhuntek 15:46, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support : in case it is not assumed that I, as originator of the proposal, am in favor. (Direction to Wikipedia policy, please?) David Kernow 20:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support. And I would suggest the Bergen-Belsen to be a disamb article directing to Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, Bergen-Belsen DP camp and Bergen-Belsen POW camp. --Lysytalk 21:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Seconded David Kernow 03:27, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Support. The name change is consistent with usage elsewhere ("Auschwitz concentration camp"). logologist|Talk 02:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Thank you for making the move, Nightstallion. As per Lysy's suggestion above, I've now converted the Bergen-Belsen redirect page into a disambiguation page. David Kernow 14:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
This camp was in Germany - I believe the latest historical consensus is that no gassings occurred in Germany proper in spite of what witnesses may claim. There were several other witnesses who contradict the historical consensus besides the gas immune boy and the soldier. The article should not try to imply a history that no reputable historian will support. The link mentioning the two eyewitnesses to gassing is scrapbooks - appears to be an unreliable source - no historian from either camp verifies much/most of their information. Very emotionally intense but light on facts and truth.
Search the web with "Kramer,belsen,etc" - you will find several articles of some scholarly merit, far removed from this propaganda piece.159.105.80.63 13:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Concernig negotiations over the camp - no mention that DDT was used after liberation, not released for use during the war. The Allies had DDT throughout the war, dropping DDT for camp use ( the Russians neede it too ) would have stopped most deaths - of course the Germans could have fought longer and harder.159.105.80.141 13:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)