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Contents 1 Welcome! 2 Vandalism 3 you must have deleted my article while i was talking about it thats why it didn´t follow the guidelines! 4 Thanks 5 Thank You 6 Re: Question 7 Vandalism to my User Page 8 What do you think of this? 9 AfD nomination of Tottenham Hotspur Food Poisoning Scandal 2005/06 10 (This article is uncategorized.) 11 Thanks 12 User:Ghaith bilbeisi 13 Thanks from User:Bader_isu 14 NPWatcher 15 Megaherb 16 NPwatcher 17 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 18 Resp 19 Hello 20 Vandalism 21 Your welcome 22 Idris Foster 23 Aargh 24 Categories 25 Response. 26 WP:PipeOrgan related links 27 Questions particularly to Bencherlite and Mdcollins 28 Response back to Bencherlite and Mdcollins 29 Sockpuppets 30 Vandalism to cartoon show pages 31 Harp cats 32 Wiki Organ Project

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Vandalism

I had my eye on that vandal for a while. I've blocked them for 24 hours in the hope they come back with some valid edits next time around. Happy editing ;) -- Longhair\^talk 10:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Make that an indefinite block. They aren't interested in anything more than playing games... Ignore them, and feel free to let me know if you have any further disruption. Cheers. -- Longhair\^talk 11:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] you must have deleted my article while i was talking about it thats why it didn´t follow the guidelines!

8. Talk Page of pages that do not exist, unless they contain deletion discussion that isn't logged elsewhere. Subpages (including archive pages) are only deletable under this rule if the corresponding top-level page does not exist. Exceptions to this are user talk pages, the talk pages of images on Commons, and the talk pages of protected deleted pages.

So before I had finished talking you deleted my page to make it not fit in with your guidelines.

(InfinityOnHigh45 08:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC))

This still hasn´t explained why my page was deleted when i had contested the speedy deletion?

[edit] Thanks

A quick thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. Cheers! •CHILLDOUBT• 13:00, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No problem - I was on my way to report the vandal to the administrators, but saw you had beaten me to it! Bencherlite 13:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Thanks for your suggestion, I tend to try to personalize my notes to others regarding edits that do not belong on wikipedia, it allows me to better tell them which page they vandilized, but I may use these templates. BassxForte 20:37, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Question

Hi there - thought I'd pick your brains about this one. I reverted some vandalistic changes by two different anonymous users at People in quick succession, then went to leave warning messages at their talk pages. When I came to the second one, I found that you had left the warning there (unsigned, btw). I'm sure I've seen somewhere that the usual procedure is to let the reverting editor leave the warning, but I can't find that in a WP policy off-hand. Do you know whether there is such a policy? My experience (admittedly from only a few days of anti-vandalism fun) seem to suggest that that's how things are usually done, possibly because some people can do more things at once with their tools, but you may well know more than I do. (Just to be clear, I'm not bothered about missing out on leaving one warning - just wondered if there is a protocol for these things). TTFN Bencherlite 02:22, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to break this up

• Thanks for your work
• Thanks for noticing it was unsigned comment I make mistakes
• I have slightly more experience than you but not much more. I normally fix up WP:AIR (Wiki Project Aircraft) and have checked recent changes on and off, but not really that much til' this week.
• There isn't a policy I know of. There probably is one though. It might just be an essay. It is standard etiquette. A lot of people do whatever they can, but sometimes they cut you off. When I did that I got confused between Pop-Tarts and People. I tried to revert people but you already did. Then I fixed pop tarts. Then I hit back to go and fix up the people who messed up Pop-Tarts. Instead I left the message in People. So that's my fault. I know how it feels.
• On a second thought it is procedure in WP:VANDALISM for only one person to do it. Read the vandalism procedure. It says what to do in order implying that once you fix vandalism it's yours to fix unless you need the help of an admin. (Which I'm definitely not} So you are right they imply it strongly but I don't thing they really wrote it directly anywhere. And yes: with tools you can do everything at once w/ just about 3 clicks. Believe me I have seen a video of the software before. Don't go around yelling at people saying that it is your right, but you can leave a message on their talk page and kindly say whatever you think is best. RedSkunk 03:07, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't get what you mean by "after leaving the above (d'oh!)" Anyways I'm sure I've found another Wikifriend! See you around. BTW you have more edits than I do RedSkunk 03:19, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I see how that can happen. It's happened to me on other things. And now I what you meant! RedSkunk 03:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

You should apply for VandalProof. It could speed up your edits. RedSkunk 03:36, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the save. I JUST copied (I asked ShakingSpirit if I could) the layout. You are probably the first to bother to click there. That saved me a good deal of embarrasement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Redskunk (talk • contribs) 03:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Vandalism to my User Page

I didn't even notice. Thanks for the heads up. Would that be 1 or 2 vandalism. Anyways, how did you know. RedSkunk 19:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What do you think of this?

Because of this new vandalism I felt like putting a new userbox on my page. This is what I have so far. Any input? RedSkunk 20:04, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

How's that. I count myself as british, not scottish. I just went to university there. RedSkunk

Sorry for wasting the time but I think I won't use it, but you never know!?!? RedSkunk 20:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

It's hard for me to use babel. I've lost a lot of my (British) accent. :( I picked up some scottish accent and some American accent. Essentially I sound REALLY weird. Do you know a userbox like "This user has a very very strange accent" or an "undistinguishable" accent. Do you know if there is one? RedSkunk 20:56, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Tottenham Hotspur Food Poisoning Scandal 2005/06

I followed the advice given on the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion page, although I gave up after 10 minutes of trying to get the templates displaying correctly. After reading the guide again, I realised I confused "discussion page" for "talk page". Anyway, thanks for sorting the templates out. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JameiLei (talk • contribs) 22:18, 16 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] (This article is uncategorized.)

Dear i need to know what is code of this tage that you used in artilce(Willie Waldman).Khalidkhoso 02:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.BTW you can use Userboxtop|Userboxes,Boxboxbottom on your user page.It will look much better.Caio Khalidkhoso 02:33, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Lol,:P.I bet. Khalidkhoso 02:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I was just about to get that on Owl when I looked at the history and saw last 2 edits from him i figured I only undid one of them. Thanks again.--Xiahou 03:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

And thanks from me for the fine edit of the troublesome first sentence in the Wolf Larson article. I was blanking on how to fix it. I Still might change the word "stationed." That word is usually associated with military personnel, and it seems his dad was really a university prof or something like that. Actually, the entire article needs work. The writer goes overboard with using Mr. Larson's first name to start almost every sentence. I'll work on it someday. Best to you. Sir Rhosis 05:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Ghaith bilbeisi

Why did you nominate User:Ghaith bilbeisi for speedy deletion. It is a user page and it don't have to be Notable. Rettetast 18:22, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey. I saw that you removed the warning. Nice. Rettetast 18:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

No need for apologies. Everybody does mistakes. You admit it you did and that is the important thing. Have a fantastic day. Rettetast 18:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks from User:Bader_isu

Hi, I just read your comments on my first wikipedia article and I'll get it done asap. This is actually an assignment I have for a technical writing class but I'm actually getting to enjoy being a wikipedian! Thanks for the welcome note and I really appreciate your help:) I'll make sure to come here and spam you with questions if I get lost:)
Bader isu 22:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPWatcher

I've added you to the list, you should now be able to run the program. If you have questions, feel free to ask me. —— Eagle101 ^{Need help?} 21:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

If there are any problems with NPW, or other stuff related to it, please drop a line on my talk page ;-). Also, feel free to add to your page the NPW userbox. Happy Editing by Snowolf^(talk)_CON^COI on 10:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Megaherb

Many thanks for reverting the vandalism on the megaherb page. Given its title, I'm surprised at how little vandalism it has received ... All the best Jasper33 12:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPwatcher

What is NPwatcher? Saw it and took a look. And you almost have 1000 edits! RedSkunk^talk 19:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I really should take that barnstar off. I after asking permission took a layout from someone else's page. I had to explain after I figured it out. Oh well it will end up being in archive in a while. I have a new layout on the way :) RedSkunk^talk 15:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Resp

Of course, sorry for the mix up. Your edit sure wasn't vandalism, but it did look like it. Good work vandal fighting. Cheers, Dfrg.msc 21:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Cheers mate. I really could go for some "kick-ass apple blossoms" right now. See you around, Dfrg.msc 21:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

I've seen that you've been reverting a lot of vandalism! I haven't been on much due to the fact that I've been working on Korean wikipedia, because I just got a korean keyboard. Is NPwatcher like vandalproof vandalsniper etc... Thanks 신 P. S. You probably ought to archive using some code. I have a layout that I really like, but you can do it however you want. If you want to use my layout just ask me and I'll give it to you.RedSkunk^talk 16:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

You can make it invisible if you want! Anyways I got in a conflict with some guy that had a real hot head. Look on by talk page if you want. I'm trying to make a new userpage. If you have any input that would be good. I'm also under Editor Review so it would be good if you could take a look. Best Regards RedSkunk^talk 23:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. I gave him a level one warning saying he needed to source it and he got really mad. It was minor and I should've just commented and not put the warning template so I got rid of it and gave him a purple heart before he starts going around vandalizing the user page. His edits were in good faith, but were misguided. RedSkunk^talk 23:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For your continuous and fast removal of vandalism - keep up the good work! symode09 23:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your welcome

Impressed to see so many of the titles above are "thankyou" If you are writing to say thanks to Bencherlite then let me tell you "he thanks others" ... you're welcome Victuallers 00:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, in that case happy birthday and enjoy your present!

symode09 00:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Idris Foster

No problem. It was nice to see that the article had been created. I take it you're a Jesus man? Deb 15:45, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aargh

Thanks. Just ask if you want a sig :) I've been around and have seen more. (I think) though you have reverted more vandalism and done more cleanup. I've just started at looking at WP:DEAD. I've cleaned up a few pages there. I accidentally got involved in some really hot stuff for Wiki Project Aircraft that I didn't want to. (See talk page) Now I've got an angry person/IP adress after me and I don't know if they're the same or not. It's suspicious... And Do you have advice for my user page (SORRY) just want to know. I need to do something to distract me until I can regain my bearings. Your exasperated wikifriend. RedSkunk^talk 23:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

Hey, I was wondering if there is anyway to look up categories that already exist... like an index of all the categories out there that have been created by others. I've been trying to categorize my article and the only way that I was able to do so, was to look at articles about similar topics and seeing if I can fit mine into one of their categories. This has worked to some degree but I thought I'd be better if I can put it in all/most of the right categories out there and perhaps do the same to other articles. I've cheked the wikipedia article on categories and couldn't find such a thing except a list of recently created categories. Thanks for your help, Bader isu 21:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response.

I responded with: Sorry for the misunderstanding! :) It's just that I've been told many times to tell the user that I didn't want you to fall into the same thing. Acalamari 21:50, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:PipeOrgan related links

Thanks for adding all those articles! I was thinking about the de-linking you did on the unrelated article, and whether if they showed up on the 'recent changes' tool we could keep track on any organ related information that appears by people not finding the correct link. You may be right though and as long as the disambig links are clear enough, this should happen, or would be noticed by editors of that page.

On another note, I have suggested that we hold of linking the organists in Category:Organists until we can categorize them properly - it seems a bit of a mess. It will be easier to edit and note the links in one go rather than having to go through every organist two or three times. I have started a discussion on the project talk page so we can all agree first.

Best, MDCollins (talk) 10:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed that you asked whether Dudley Buck was a cathedral organist or not. I have probably been going against my own rules, but have used discretion in cases like this and included organists of large-ish/ or many parish churches in this category as well, not just for cathedrals. I know this might create problems, but save another Category:Church organists it kind of seemed logical! MDCollins (talk) 11:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions particularly to Bencherlite and Mdcollins

You two wrote me some positive comments following some editing I did last week on the Wiki article "Hendrik Niehoff" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Niehoff As you may have discovered, I do not know very much about carrying out helpful upgrades to the Wiki website, so I ask you for help.

Since the previous Niehoff update, I have done considerably more updating. For example, in the meantime I've added a digital photo I took of the great organ Niehoff built for the Johanniskirche in Lüneburg. I took that photo, there is no copyrite problem. But I would like to go further and add a group of photos showing more of Niehoff's work to that webpage. These will come from scans from several books, none of which to my knowledge are copyrighted. I do NOT want to invade the co pyrites, so I ask you to tell me what the limits are - how you can be sure the books are not protected at this time.

The one book is Maarten Albert Vente's "Die Brabanter Orgel" that was last published in 1963 and has no notice of a copyrite when published and Dr. Vente (a very close friend of mine) died in 1989. There are several good photos there from which I have prepared decent scans.

The other book is Jan van Biezen's "Het Nederlandse Orgel in de Renaissance en de Barok, in het Bijzonder de School van Jan van Covelens" that was published in 1995 with ISBN 90-6375-154-0 geb. Again, I do not see notice that this is copyrighted - unless I simply do not understand the Dutch. I have no means of contact with Heer van Biezen to enable discussion on this with him, and I do not want to do anything against the extremely valuable publication he has provided to us. Does anyone have information that will say how far I dare go by adding digital scans for this book to the Niehoff website.

Thank any of you for whatever information you can give me on these matters. IF the results you send are positive, I will glad to continue providing information I have on organ history and construction to the Wikipedia website.

John Brombaugh, retired organbuilder: jborgans@interserv.com <-- write to me directly here to make a better connection.

(for more information on my background, go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brombaugh )

I too have replied, with much the same response (also pointing out Wikipedia:Autobiography). –MDCollins (talk) 08:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Response back to Bencherlite and Mdcollins

RE back to: Copyright question - reply from Mdcollins and Bencherlite copied in the next indented paragraphs:

Sadly, I suspect that the answer is that the photos in the book are protected by Dutch copyright law, even if there's not actually a copyright indication in the book, since the book was published too recently for it to be in the public domain. There's a page at Wikipedia:Copyright FAQ which might help explain WP's approach to copyright issues. Question 1 is "Can I add something to Wikipedia that I got from somewhere else? and the answer is "In general, no. Most of the content people want to add is copyrighted, although some work has been made available by authors under an appropriate license (see below), and some work is in the public domain (see below). The absence of a copyright notice does not mean that a work may be freely used."

We will have to see if we can find some public domain photographs through the project - failing that, time to go on holiday and take our cameras!

I didn't reply by email as I prefer not to use my main (work) email for WP purposes, and I so rarely use my home email that it would be a pain to start to use it again for WP only! I'll leave a copy of this message on Mdcollins' page too. Best wishes, Bencherlite 01:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid that, even though I am unsure about copyrighting, that Bencherlite is sadly right - as far as I know, book covers are ok, for referring to that book only, but for images contained within, I'd be very surprised if it was allowed.

Also, although John Brombaugh is well written and potentially a very good article, I'd advise you to read Wikipedia:Autobiography just to bring to your attention some concerns people may have. –MDCollins (talk) 08:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the above information. As you see, I don't know really how the Wikipedia works nor really the best way to respond back to either of you. I guess you guys are about the only ones reading this unless others want to come check your user pages.

Anyway, from what I see, I think it is best that we return both the Niehoff and JB articles back to what they were so there is no question about ethics or copyrights. This is one reason why you see so little in the regular organ magazines on my work because to get it in there requires that one toot ones own horn; I'd prefer to let history do that instead. The single reason why I was interested in making the alterations to both articles is because I know how difficult the historical surveys like Vente and van Biezen do to bring us more accurate information: they can no longer talk with the people they are writing about, so they don't necessarily have very reliable information. But history can worry about that. I'll remove the photo of the Lüneburg organ and make other changes as much as possible so both articles are as much like I saw them about two weeks ago - except that I'll remove the information about myself that was in the Niehoff article written by someone else. I like the idea that you do all this with your camera to avoid the many problems you've pointed out. (I will carry out my part in making those reverse changes in the next day or so.)

Kind regards, Jborgans 21:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Copies sent to MDCollins's talk page and Bencherlite's talk page

[edit] Sockpuppets

Thank you for notifying me of this, which is the latest of a seemingly endless stream of abusive and libellous sockpuppets attacking me across scores of Wikipedia pages. See the list at [[1]] RolandR 13:23, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to cartoon show pages

Hi, you and I both noticed vandalism on pages such as List of Squirrel Boy episodes. Please help me with specific instructions as to reporting the vandal. I don't understand how a warning on the talk page of an IP address will do anything--no one ever reads it?! Do I also have to notify an admin of the warning? Also, please provide a sample of text or a place where I can cut & paste the warnings, or any advice for quickly & easily dealing with problems such as this. Thanks a bunch. Bawtyshouse 12:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harp cats

Kudos on working on the harp cats. Thankfully the harp isn't as popular as the guitar so we don't have to worry about pages and pages of names in the main categories. Although I would say her training was classical (I think she studied some Salzedo stuff as well) LeBaron resides in the "new/avant-garde music" world, and is thus hard to categorize, as her work is ostensibly contemporary classical but she also plays rock with a distortion pedal (and slide!) as well as free improvised music. She probably also does some jazz, though I'm not sure whether she does any straight-ahead stuff (soloing over changes, etc.) the way other better known jazz harpists do. And she's influenced by world musics such as Korean kayagum music. So which category she should go in? Unlike most harpists, who specialize in a genre such as Celtic or classical, I think LeBaron is primarily concerned with her own compositions (as well as the work she does with her improvisation ensemble), and as such is quite an eclectic musician. Badagnani 12:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I just read the Harpo Marx article. Fascinating. I suppose he played mostly in a classical style as I don't remember him doing ragtime, blues, or anything of the sort. I don't understand why the strings would have broken if he had tuned it up properly; in fact, I don't understand the whole bit about how he had mistuned it. If he tuned it up a few steps to the proper pitch I don't see how that would have thrown him off. By the way, Andreas Vollenweider doesn't have any type of harp cat, and I have no idea how that happened. He could be a bit hard to classify as well. Badagnani 12:37, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki Organ Project

Will do. BTW, as for Vox Humana being a soft stop, you should hear my mother's recording of César Franck's Fantaisie in A - the Vox Humana dominates whenever the pedal reed (an Ophicleide on 15-inch wind) doesn't! --Vox Humana 8' 20:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)