Talk:Benny Urquidez

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There is dispute as to whether or not Benny Urquidez is undefeated as he was defeated under Thai rules by I believe two fighters in Thailand. I will post the videos when I find them

The following page says he had a draw against Nalongleng and a decision loss against Bayud: [1] (with images) Shawnc 00:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Reference [1] is really not a credible source. For example, the fight with "Bayud" is actually the same fight as the fight with Prayoud Sittiboonlert (Tokyo, August 1978). The source claims these were two different fights with two different outcomes. I have replaced with data from sanctioning organizations for which the no-contest ruling holds. When I get the chance I will add a list of all Urquidez' fights. Mike Miles, a top spokesman for Muay Thai, discusses the Narongnoi and Sittiboonlert fights on his website. -- Jcandy 09:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Heyyy! Great work! I've had this page earmarked for a substantial rewrite for quite a while now, but this is way beyond anything I had planned. Well researched and well written, good job. -- DeLarge 16:52, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I reverted text in "Controversial Fight Decisions" to its original form. Someone added the sentences "The Thai fighter dominted Benny with knees, a technique he was not accustomed to, especially in the second round. Benny's corner threw in the towel at the end of the second round, and video evidence shows the Thai fighter's hand raised in victory." I note that, recently, a short video clip of the fight has surfaced on the web. It shows a few frames of Benny holding a towel at the end of the fight. It does not show his corner throw in a towel. In fact, in the video, he looks amicable and undamaged after the fight. The video evidence also shows the Thai's corner men, not an official, raising his (Sittiboonlert's) hand. So, I have removed the material on the grounds that it is not properly sourced. -- Jcandy 02:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the recently-added section discussing the "Gracie Controversy". I have heard both sides of this story, and until someone can come up with believable sources and some level of corroboration, these sorts of urban legends don't belong on Wikipedia. Wikipedia must strive to list only the facts, not rumors, gossip, heresay, etc. -- Jcandy 01:10, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I took out the link to *http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html Benny The Jet Defeated? on the grounds that although its hard to acertain the validity of the cite in question the whole page is riddled with biased and misinformed statements (such as the towel throw in the muay thai fight and citing Bas Rutten's striking skills as comeing from muay thai when he himself says they are kyokushin. Moreover it contains quotes from martial artists to give the appearance of truth when some of them are wrestlers with little striking ability remarking on muay thai)- Joe S 2-19-07 8:17 PM

Excellent. I strongly agree with this edit and the justification. -- Jcandy 19:32, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] missing info

he used to have a school in california. Jet's Gym 6247 Laurel Canyon Boulevard North Hollywood CA USA Phone: 818-766-0461

Also, has siblings who were/are also into martial arts.

yes, his siblings were also into martial arts in one for or another as was his wife, brother-in-law and sister-in-law I believe. it's quite a family affair. I'll see what I can find on that. His wife's name is Sarah. Urquidez has also worked as a stunt coordinator and trainer on some films. When I met him first, he had just finished training Brian Denehy (sp?) for Diggstown. I believe his school is still open. Oddly enough, I once worked with his nephew and recoginzed him as such due to the remarkable family resemblence. Same eyes, same smile! LiPollis 09:16, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] YouTube links

This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 04:04, 10 November 2006 (UTC)