Talk:Belfast Blitz

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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spot87 (talkcontribs) 21 May 2006.

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I found it difficult to write the 'human cost' paragraph. There were too many tragic stories. In the end I opted to repeat quotes from primary sources which are in several books.

Dr Brian Barton has published most on this topic, however there are instances where he seems to have a 'orange' tinge to his writing.

I didn't include 'ditching', it was difficult to summarise. For months some people left the city every night and slept in ditches with a deterioration in hygine, manners, etc

There are different accounts as to who sent the telegram to whom. It probably was sent to the Dublin City manager rather than to deV. For now I opted to follow what many books say.

It would be good to get photos of the blitz. Plenty exist. But they seem to be copyright.

I left out later discussions. deV wanted to help. Offers were rejected. e.g. joining the electricity grids - at the time the south had a surplus of power from ard na crusha

I left out discrimination in - for example the 'home guard' (Dad's Army) had to take an oath which effectively excluded nationalists

Ok, any suggestions? --ClemMcGann 09:45, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


Good work, Clem.

Lapsed Pacifist 15:55, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Seconded. --Red King 19:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

This is an excellent article. Thank you. (anonymous but grateful, January 24 2007)


After the blitz came a post war housing boom consisting of estates like newbarnsley ballymurphy highfield e.t.c , I remember as a kid asking my father why we had such strong coalsheds they where the size and height of a large bedroom with an 8 inch thick concrete roof and all just to store 2 or 3 bags of coal ! I was told that after the war designers where told to add these as ready made bomb shelters , of course back then they would probably not have forseen the threat of all out nuclear war —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.12.228.66 (talk • contribs).

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