Talk:Behind Enemy Lines (band)
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dude, this is basically about the band that was formed from members of Aus-rotten when it broke up. THis has been done with numerouse other artists on wikipedia. If Aus-rotten was important enough to be on wikipedia then why should this band be different? And even if the band isn't acually all that important does it really matter? because I know some people are going to come to wikipedia looking for info on this band. Why is this an issue?
- what he said about being connected to a notable band (at least two notable bands actually). also they toured europe (extensively in germany) and about half the u.s.
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[edit] speedy deletion
I put a hangon tag on this article. I'm not done creating it yet, and this band is one of the more important active crust bands, and the members are movers-and-shakers in the DIY scene. Carboneyes 21:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you're lucky I saw it first and then went to check it out. They meet the notability standards at first glance [1] for the two albums, but the article needs to have more info than this straight away before the deletionists come along! By the way, are they any good? See my user page for musical prefs! Bubba hotep 21:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that this article make it to another level of completion for it to be safe. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Also be sure to use more than the band's site. It turns out I'm the one who deleted this article before because I tagged it as a vanity article and nobody every changed it so I thought it had been abandoned, and after waiting quite a while (about two weeks), I deleted it. I'd rather you create a good article than see someone delete your work. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I just noticed yesterday that you had deleted this article a little while back (I've been and still am pretty inactive right now). I was in the process of trying to get a discussion going on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Punk music about asking you to undelete when I noticed someone recreated it. Anyway, as for notability, they contain members from bands that are definitely notable, especially Aus-Rotten who are one of the most well known American crust bands. I'm glad to see it's back up. As for Bubba's question, yes they are pretty good. Metal sounding, bass heavy punk. A bit more metalish than Aus-Rotten. Good lyrics. My favorite song from them is probably "Army of God", and everything is free for download on their site I think. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 06:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
- Also be sure to use more than the band's site. It turns out I'm the one who deleted this article before because I tagged it as a vanity article and nobody every changed it so I thought it had been abandoned, and after waiting quite a while (about two weeks), I deleted it. I'd rather you create a good article than see someone delete your work. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that this article make it to another level of completion for it to be safe. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] removed stub
I removed the stub tag. I don't know if this was appropriate to do yet. If not, then put it back on. I feel the origins section gives a little more emphasis on the importance of this band, but of course it's a work in progress. This is my first nouveau page, so I'm getting the hang of things. Carboneyes 04:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] origins
carboneyes, great job on the origins section but it's got things a little turned around. chamberlain moved to pittsburgh to join aus-rotten, then caustic christ formed almost immediately as a side band. finally when aus-rotten broke up, behind enemy lines formed. also, the pist broke up years before chamberlain left connecticut. his last band in connecticut was react. he was also in devastation with sachs. i'll give some thought to rephrasing what you wrote to reflect all this, but in the meantime i'm giving you the info so you can rewrite it if you want. Sokeripupu 21:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Minor objection
"Aus-Rotten was active during the time of the Clinton administration, and their lyrics tended to focus on cultural atrophy and hypocrisy under the guise of liberalism" Some of A-R's of their lyrics targeted conservatives and the religious, namely "The Promise Keepers" and "The Crucifix and the Flag." Moreover, A-R condemned nationalism, which generally is tightly bound to the right-wing. Another thing; absolutely none of their lyrics even dropped Clinton's name.
The lyrics never directly attacked liberalism. If anything, they were staunch left-wingers.
- They're anarchists AFAIK, and anarchists don't like liberals or conservatives. I don't know enough of Aus-Rotten's lyrics to say which they attacked more, but the article says tended to focus on, not that they only focused on those things. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 08:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Still, read their lyrics and see for yourself.
