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[edit] Train stations

Hi there! Thanks for taking the trouble of merging the Tri-Rail Stations, it really helps! Radiant_* 15:23, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks - it was no trouble... just some cutting and pasting. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 19:21, 2005 Apr 9 (UTC)

[edit] FIU

Should be fixed. Didn't realize IE didnt render it correctly TrbleClef 18:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] British American Tobacco

I've redirected the British-American Tobacco Company page to British American Tobacco.--TheGrza 02:06, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

• Ha!!! Too late, did it myself. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 02:07, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)

Well, hmmm. Apparently we did it at the same time. And then, we both commented on this page at the same time. I'm starting to get spooked.--TheGrza 02:07, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

• Nah, we're just both equally on top of things. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 02:09, 2005 Apr 18 (UTC)

[edit] Godfrey Higgins

Please help with the article, Godfrey Higgins. Lots of research to do. :) Adraeus 22:30, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• I certainly will, but I'm afraid it's going to have to wait until I finish the class outline I'm working on tonight. Tomorrow, for sure. -- 8^D BD2412^gab 00:15, 2005 May 1 (UTC)

[edit] Brian Wells

You're welcome! Enjoyed the article; another one of those tidbits I somehow missed when it was in the news. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:44, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Clinohumite

Thanks! I had originally planned to devote my evening to revamping another diamond subarticle, but this article seemed to be in greater need. Now if only I could get my hands on a cut clinohumite that large (envious sigh). Cheers, -- Hadal 07:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heya! Catalanic

I've been challenged at Catalanic, and I have had to concede several points, as a perusal of the article's history, and Talk:Catalanic will demonstrate. Can you get ahold of Dr. Abraham Lavendar for me and see what he might know about Catalanic, speakers, extant records, etc.? Tomer ^TALK 19:04, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Great job

Congratulations on the great job you did on expanding pizza delivery. I know it was a group effort, but the history shows you've had a major hand in it. Here's a WikiThanks flower for the effort. Keep up the good work! Mgm|^(talk) 22:11, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)

• Many thanks - it's an important topic! -- 8^D BD2412^gab 05:34, 2005 Apr 2 (UTC)

[edit] Thx 4 cleaning up my work on Mel Matinez' pg.

Thanks for cleaning up the work I and others did on Mel Martinez' Wiki page; I see you're a fellow-Floridian -and a lawyer too. I could've used your help when I went to court in regards to Theresa Schiavo, cuz, I know that while we may not all like feeding tubes, we certainly like food, water, and basic medical care, examination, and the like. Well, I'm living in the past, but when you go to a Florida hospital, careful: They like to remove non-terminal patients and put them in hospice, chapter 400 of Florida law, not withstanding. Anyhow, I just wanted to drop you a short note to thank you for cleaning up and making minor improvements to my edits. --GordonWattsDotCom 01:57, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the edit ...

... to my work on the Oxford Movement. I try to remember to check all the links, but I missed that one. Frjwoolley 03:29, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Francis the Talking Mule

Thanks for noticing (especially coming from such a prolific contributor)! I'm a big fan of the films, and recently acquired a book on animal actors which discusses the trainer's background and so on. Hope to find time to add pages for the individual films *eventually*. Aleal 00:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Self induced abortion

I'm fixing it now so that it is consistently "woman". I personally hold the view that pre-partum, a woman is a woman not a mother. I also think its a broader issue of defining women by their roles rather than referring to them as women. An An 00:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good points. Even though I'm a law student, this identity doesn't subsume my other identities. I remain an office worker, a feminist, and a woman. When I become a mother, I'll also still be all these things (hopefully with the exception of student). I find there's a tendency to subsume womanhood into motherhood (or girlhood or cronehood or wifehood) which leaves me with a bad taste. Whereas a father is generally still a man, even though he takes up fatherhood even more consciously than a woman takes up motherhood. Its a political question, and I find that the politically neutral answer (this is one which allows others to interpret it their own way) is to allow women to be 'women' and assume those additional life roles rather than foist roles onto them by say, describing women as either 'mother', 'child', 'wife', 'old woman'. Besides, I also think that use of "mother" instead of "woman" in an abortion-related context is emotive and that brings up POV issues. Cheers, An An 00:55, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gurjara / Gujjars

I started an article on the Gurjara in order to address this "most wanted article." I'm unsure of the relationship between them and the Gujjars - are they the same group? You would likely have more insight than I. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 15:08, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)

I actually don't know. Both articles claim that the people in question are the source of the name Gujarat. I'm afraid my expertise lies somewhat north of the region you're asking about. --Briangotts 21:29, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Gurjara and Gujjars are same. Gurjara is the Sanskrit word used in widely in literature, while Gujjar is the more common form, used now-a-days. I think the articles should be merged. utcursch | talk 06:46, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Human Rights Record of the United States

I agree that my suggested title is also confusing. Your solution is good. I posted on the article talk page because I wasn't sure what the best solution would be. NoSeptember 20:59, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cool :-)

Been so long that I forgot I did that article :-) Good job though! - Ta bu shi da yu 00:21, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

thanks for dismabiguating links - didn't spot that for deans. Alf 16:01, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• It's not an obvious one - I happened upon it very much by accident myself. -- BD2412 ^talk 16:02, 2005 Jun 26 (UTC)

[edit] Many thanks for the invitation to work on the human rights article

... and I hope Godwilling to get to it soon. BrandonYusufToropov 29 June 2005 20:49 (UTC)

[edit] Druidic polytheism

That's definitely odd. They probably should be merged into one with two redirects.... --brian0918™ 5 July 2005 19:08 (UTC)

[edit] Can't find the article on Slavery in Islam...

... as what you cited is redlinked. Thanks for the heads-up -- when you get the chance, can you please give the current title of the article? Peace BrandonYusufToropov 16:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Many thanks. Perhaps this should be nominated for speedy deletion? It appears to be an attempt to get around the content block on the other article. BrandonYusufToropov 16:47, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Rap

...but rap music and hip hop music are one and the same. No need for seperate articles. --FuriousFreddy 15:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Not quite. Destiny's Child and Usher are R&B musicians; their work might be partially inspired by hip-hop, but they are not hip-hop artists. As far as hip-hop meaning something broader than just "rap music", there is the hip hop culture, versus just the music (hip hop music). --FuriousFreddy 15:42, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Orange Tips & Orangetips

The Europeans seem to prefer Orange Tip while the American continent seems to prefer Orangetip. It's just where the butterflies are that determines their name. Williamb 17:06, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mandleshwar

Mandleshwar is situated in Khargone district of Madhya Pradesh, India. Added to the article also. Thanks. burdak 07:04, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree about what you said about rap and hip hop music not being the same thing. I think R&B as used today as a term has very little to do with the original, and should not be used ~Jack Daily 8:45UTC

[edit] RE: Dingyuan

你好! I appreciate the disamb work that you did on that page, however the reason I reverted it is because I felt it would be better to point the reader to a page with all of Vulcan's different meanings than to link it to Vulcan (god), which is wrong. I'll see what I can do about Vulcan Shipbuilding, though I don't know much about it and to be honest I'm pretty surprised that there's no existing article about it. Cheers. -Hmib 03:16, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Ron and Fez

I agree - the "Cast of Characters" section in the Ron and Fez article is too long. Originally, "Personality", "Producers" and "Interns" was under the heading "Staff", but it was changed to include "Callers, Contributors and Other Friends of the Show". I think the latter subheading should be given its own article, if not the whole heading. --Kevin McManus 01:30, August 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Asking your opinion

Hello BD! I noticed you did some work at London, Ontario article, and I was wondering if you'd care to weigh in on an issue on the talk page there concerning Bill Brady. The anon who keeps removing the bullet under his name in the Notable Londoners section of the article offers no real reason for doing so, and claims that since only three people have commented on it, there is no clear concensus as to the mans notabilty (or lack thereof). I wrote the Brady article today, and I don't want to revert his entry at Notable Londoners for fear of being blocked (3RR). Even though at this point the anons constant removal of the bullet entry is pretty much vandalism (IMO). If you take the time, Thanks in advance, if you're too busy, I understand completely. See you 'round! Hamster Sandwich 18:39, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

BD2412 thanks for staying objective, ham above systematically lobbies people to support his position creating a very artifical playing field.

• Hello BD! To clarify my reason for contacting you regarding the article mentioned above, I was seeking yet another impartial opinion. I hope you didn't mind my asking. After having seen you here for the past month, I felt I could resect your opinion, regardless of what your response was. I still do, in fact! Maybe moreso now. See you 'round! Hamster Sandwich 04:52, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Another Possible Jamie Kane

Hi, I was curious as to official Wikipolicy of using Wikipedia for Viral marketing. Just wondering because I was about to welcome Hagerman when I saw his edits to Busch Gardens Tampa Bay. At first he seemed to add what looked like it was straight from the park guide, but he fixed a few of the NPOV problems a few minutes ago after I slapped an expand and NPOV tag on the article and gave him a welcomenpov message on his talk page. I don't want to bite the newcomers, but I was curious as to how to approach this situation. It seems to be fairly harmless, but may be against a policy on WP:NOT anyway. Just wanted your two cents. Karmafist 01:21, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I believe the same thing, and I assume most other users do to, but it seems that "better safe than sorry" is the general rule around here so I figured I'd ask. Is there any level where you can call yourself an "expert" at all of this? I just passed 1,500 edits yesterday, I feel fairly intermediate. Karmafist 02:24, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hurricane Katrina edit

Have you actually read the time article? It mentions Katrina twice, once in the headline and once in an omnious closing "the next one they do see could make even Katrina look mild." The article isn't about Katrina at all, it's just some vague handwaving about global warming. Why vague handwaving? They don't cite a single scientific source (it says the MIT paper says storms are getting worse, not that global warming is involved), nor any provide anything more than some simplistic reasoning "warm waters make stronger storms, global warming might make the water warmer". So not only is the link not about Katrina, the material in it doesn't meet the verifyability test for it to be included in wikipedia itself. If an expert on tropical storms said something it might actually be interesting, but still not in the Katrina article. 24.165.233.150 03:33, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Beeramid photograph

Hi..I recieved a message from you about a copyrighted picture in the Beeramid article. I have no idea how to reply back to you except in this way. I'm sorry if I'm being a nuisance or doing something wrong. I am the photographer of the picture and I would like to release it under the GFDL like you said, although I have no idea how to do so. I am quite new to wikipedia and don't really understand....very sorry again...please help.

Responded on user talk page thusly:

• I've taken care of it - when you upload a picture, you can put {{GFDL}} in the description, and that will tag it as one that has been released under the appropriate license. You can also do that with a picture that has already been uploaded, as with any other article. -- BD2412 ^talk 04:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I still think it should be posted.

Hi. I respect your sentiments in the Political effects of Hurricane Katrina article, but we're trying to avoid accusations that the article is biased, and putting in loaded comments simply gives ammunition to those who would write it off as POV. Cheers! -- BD2412 talk 02:48, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

It's cool man.

But I've seen black people on the news suggesting this is why it took so long thus it is an issue and I think it should be posted as an issue.

[edit] Would this work?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1452490.htm

[edit] So I can repost what I said now that I have a link?

So I can repost what I said now that I have a link?

[edit] Hurricane Reference

You asked for this: Flying Spaghetti Monsterism's belief in hurricane causation.

OK, missed your edit addition earlier. Not perfect, but I'll accept the compromise. ThreeE 19:55, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the laugh

"deep into Clintonesque parsing"..."Why, exactly, are you so determined that such allegations should not be documented?".. Bwahahha. Next will you accuse me of being a clandestine CIA operative bent on keeping the public in the dark? I await you next ludicrous leap of logic with baited breath! --Gmaxwell 19:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

• You're welcome, glad you got a kick out of it. -- BD2412 ^talk 19:50, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Though to answer your question about why I care so much about keeping wikipedia from making the leap to claim that notable people think Katrina was special in being caused by global warming, I think Kerry Emanuel (you know, the only scientist cited in all your citations on the matter) said it best: "it would be absurd to attribute the Katrina disaster to global warming" [1]. Why do I care? Because I don't want Wikipedia to be absurd. Nor do I want it to be dishonest, and no one is claiming that Katrina was special in that it was caused by global warming... Why? Because it would be absurd of them to make such a claim. --24.165.233.150 02:29, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

(replying to your most recent comment on my talk page)

You are right, I think what we have right now is just fine. I'm sorry I was so pigheaded earlier: the idea that those supporting the GW text there would be agree to a version of the text that I didn't find objectionable did not occur to me, because I wrongly believed that if it were that my alternative of a link to Tropical cyclone (where a climatologist was watching over the text) would have been acceptable. I now understand the motivations were more complex than I assumed. The text that stands is pretty good, and our very argument shows that the article is obviously getting factual oversight. I believe that there is still a lot of potential for misinformation on the 'causes' subject, and thus our objective of NPOV and factual accuracy will be best served for right now by putting the material in one place. As a result and at your request, I have changed my vote to a keep, and have included my rationale in the VFD discussion. --Gmaxwell 03:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Repent America, Hurricane Katrina and Southern Decadence

Hello, thanks for the message on my talk page. As you correctly state, Repent America said "...Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city..." That is not the same as them saying the city was destroyed because of Southern Decadence, or even because of "wickedness" in general. It would clearly be fine to quote them as saying the city is "wicked" or to quote them as saying they believe this creates an opportunity for righteousness to emerge, but they never say that the "act of God" was caused by anything at all. Johntex 20:14, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

That is possible. I'm not familiar with Repent America, other than what I read on their web page. I don't know how they define "act of God". THey may consider each birth and death and every event that takes place in the cosmos to be an "act of God". I think we should not speculate about what they meant. Now, if some other notable group happens to come along and interpret what Repent America said, we could certainly quote their interpretation - we just shoudn't interpret it ourselves. Johntex 20:26, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I think your new quote is accurate and relevant. It gives enough context for people to get the gist of what Repent America said, and to follow the link to the press release if they want to learn more. Good work! Johntex 20:40, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Just passing through, but I was wondering if there might be a NPOV way to point out that one of the few areas of New Orleans that avoided flooding and destruction was the heart of the "wickedness" itself, the French Quarter—kind of takes the hot air out of their claim. Postdlf 20:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

I've been persuaded to change my vote to Keep because there is probably too much worthwhile material here for a merge to "political effects". Johntex 16:01, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Katrina and Global Warming

Saw a few of your comments so just in case you are interested.Talk:Hurricane_Katrina#Global Warming_issue_resolution_attempt--Fluxaviator 05:28, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gogodala

Nope, never heard of it. "ISO/DIS 639-3: ggw" presumably means that its ISO 639-3 code is ggw. --Angr/_{tɔk tə mi} 20:02, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ni Hao

Nice to meet you. Answering your request of item Hu Hanmin and Xinjiao, I am trying to translate the item from Chinese wikipedia to here. But I really don't know anything about them, so all I can do is translating literally. :=) Xiaojeng 05:48, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] M-DCPS

Wanna help me add articles to every school listed on the page?

The elementary, middle, and others can be stubs, but I want the high schools to have some substance. It's a monstrous job and I can really use the help! PRueda29 21:37, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moves to Wiktionary

Would you have a moment to join the conversations on the respective Talk pages of Banana (person), Egg (person), Jook-sing, Gweilo, Laowai, Svenne and Blatte? Thanks. Rossami (talk) 03:42, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] M-DCPS

I think I might just allow everything but the high school articles to be deleted and keep them unlinked. the project is too massive for me. PRueda29 03:52, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm kind of procrastinating the project right now. Just thinking of it gives me that lazy feeling. I might continue tomorrow, though. I posted it on Wikiporject schools, but no one's really done it yet. A few articles have been created by other users, but almost every article has an afd tag on it (except the high schools). If they don't get deleyed then great; but it'll still take me a few months to get them all done considering I have like work, and school... and I'm just a general procrastinator. LOL. PRueda29 04:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Irwin Schiff

Hello. When you have time, could you help me deal with a tax protester (69.171.243.115) on Irwin Schiff? This guy originally created the article ([2]) as an advertising spiel for Schiff. I rewrote it and now he is constantly rewriting it to be POV. Thanks. — Mateo SA | talk 21:39, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

(reply posted Mateo SA's talk page):

Hi, responding to your request on my talk page, in what sense do you mean "deal with" 69.171.243.115? I'm not an admin, so I can't block him or protect the page. I've watchlisted the page, and I can try to reason with him, but I doubt that would be to any avail. -- BD2412 ^talk 21:51, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

I meant, basically, that you could revert his vandalism sometimes (he seems incredibly persistent), and possibly try to reason with him (though that would probably be hopeless). At least if more than one person is responding to him, he can't claim that the page just presents my POV. Really, I'm just frustrated with this guy. I'm not sure if his behavior qualifies as vandalism, so I don't know if he can be blocked (and he'd probably just come back when the block ended). — Mateo SA | talk 22:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

You were a big help. I won't make the mistake of coming to again. — Mateo SA | talk 22:32, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, it is unfortunate that we seem to disagree on this, but Wikipedia has lots of external links to lots of websites that we wouldn't necessarily recommend people going to (see, e.g., North American Man/Boy Love Association, Stormfront (online site), Bondage (BDSM)). It really shouldn't matter whether it would give the site more Google hits. -- BD2412 ^talk 01:45, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Irwin Schiff

I am not a tax protester. I am a guy who doesn't believe a link to Irwin Schiff's page should be edited out of the article simply because Mateo SA doesn't like the information.

• Well, the first thing I would recommend is that you sign up for an account - anon IP's carry little weight here. -- BD2412 ^talk 22:06, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't had a chance to look into this article as you asked. I've had limited access to the internet recently, and what time I have been here has been unfortunately devoted to trying to explain to half a dozen people that "delete" does not mean "merge". It seems this obvious fact is still lost on them. I think I see an RFC coming. Good news is I'll have internet service at home on friday, though hopefully i can look into this matter before then. Right now I have work to do though. -R. fiend 16:21, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Political dissent

Hi - I just stumbled on Political dissent, which has a promising list of references, but which just lacks a certain something - specifically, it lacks any semblence of being an article.... someone really ought to get one started, and I thought you might be up to the task - your thoughts? TheMadBaron 10:28, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

• I'll have a run at it over the next week or two. Cheers!  BD2412 ^talk 14:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] AMA Request for Assistance

There is an interesting and disturbing reqest for assistance on the AMA page that has, for some reason, your name attached to it. Do you know what this is all about?

PS: From a fellow attorney (class of 2004) and former resident of S. Florida, good luck on your case.Gator1 20:07, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

• ^{Note: the above comment relates to the discussion below.  BD2412 talk 23:24, 19 October 2005 (UTC)}

[edit] Removal?

I would like to work this out with you. I would like you to at least get a second and third opinion on the Fred Phelps quote in the Alleged causes of Hurricane Katrina article, It is extremely insulting and if you truly agree with me, then will you help me get it removed, or perhaps help to remove the whole article? Thank you.

Prodego 20:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

• I agree that Phelps' comment is insulting, and I'd be glad to get additional opinions as to whether it should be removed. I disagree that this or any article should be removed based on offensive content however - the inquiry that we do is whether the subject matter of the article is notable. You need look no further than the repeated GNAA debates to confirm that for yourself!  BD2412 ^talk 20:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
  • Per your request for a third party opinion, I've asked Neutrality to have a look at the offending passage and offer his perspective.  BD2412 ^talk 21:05, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

• • I of course agree the whole topic should not be removed due to one comment.

(I do find the topic a little silly, but see no reason to remove it)

No leave the comments up, I personally find them offensive but agree all views(however politicly incorrect) should be displayed, Delete this message at your disgression

Prodego 22:11, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Irwin Schiff

Once again, could you try working on Irwin Schiff? I'd rather the article didn't exist, but the original contributor tried to use it as political forum for his views or an advertisement for Schiff. I've tried to create a NPOV stub. After helping out that tax protester editor, you didn't do anything. Maybe you could do a few edits, just a few. At least remove some of the tax protester editor's blatant distortions when he adds them again. Is that asking too much? — Mateo SA | talk 19:33, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

• I've done a little cleanup of the POV in Irwin Schiff. My general preference where outlandish charges are made is to allow them in the article, but to explain why they are outlandish. In this case, I think the nature of the accusations fairly directly undercuts their own credibility. BD2412 T 22:20, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Oil merging

I'd be happy to merge Big Oil and Big oil. However, since I've never done this before (being a new admin) I will need to read up on the procedure to do it correctly. I'll try to have it done by this weekend (if that's ok with you). Best, --Alabamaboy 14:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

• No problem - I've gone ahead and merged the text, and left an attribution note in the edit summary and on the talk page, so I think that circumvents the need to merge the edit histories (in other words, nothing else needs to be done at this point). BD2412 T 14:05, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ernie Wetzler

This is not Ernie, but I think you are mistaken when you say that he is not notable because he is in fact quite notable and perhaps you should start reading the papers.

• Hi. Once you've posted something to my talk page, it will stay there until I choose to archive or delete it. Cheers! BD2412 T 19:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tax protester

BB69 is doing the same thing at Income tax and has been reverting to his changes that everyone else agrees should be out. I figured it was a matter of time before he started incorporating his "facts" at Tax protester. He was temporarily blocked for a 3RR violation on Income tax a few days ago but professed on my talk page that he would not revert often enough to violate the rule in the future. I still seem him reverting at least a couple of times every day when other editors try to fix his work. I also suspect he is the same anon IP who made similar changes earlier, although that may have simply been because he had not yet registered. I don't want to spend the rest of my life undoing his changes but they cannot be allowed to stay and turn the articles into a farce. It is tough to deal with someone who in good faith has an opinion of reality that 99.99% of the people consider off the deep end. I am not sure of the best way to handle this, so for now I have just put the pages on my watchlist and if someone else doesn't jump in and make the correction after a short while, I do. On the other hand, I don't want to be accused of engaging in a edit war myself (although hard to even view this as a "edit war" when it is everyone else versus one lone editor with an offbeat ide). I'll give it some more thought. -- DS1953 ^talk 19:38, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

No, I won't do anything with this article, because there is no point. I've come to the conclusion that Wikipedia is worthless. As DS1953 notes above, WP provides no real way to deal with nuts. WP has adopted a system where everyone's "viewpoint" is given equal weight, regardless of the facts or logic. Until WP comes up with a better system than "all that matters is that the editor really, really believes in what they're writing", then there is not point in contributing to it. So have fun. I'm giving up in disgust. — Mateo SA | talk 17:23, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pizza delivery -- Thanks!

Hey, I appreciate you cleaning up my submission for me, I know a lot about the subject, but I'm terrible at layout... I still don't think the article *looks* very good, was wondering what you thought about submitting it for peer review, I'd love to see it reach FA status ;] --VileRage ^{(Reply|C|Spam Me!*)} 03:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

2 things, would you prefer we discuss here, or at my place Secondly, I like your idea about the Fair Use pic, and I *can* do you one better, I can grab a pic of myself, or one of my drivers doing just that! ;] I'm also idly curious, are you / have you been a driver? --VileRage ^{(Reply|C|Spam Me!*)} 03:44, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Teller-Ulam design

I am thinking about nominating this article for featured article status. What do you think? I believe it meets the necessary criteria, which are:

• well written
• comprehensive
• factually accurate
• neutral
• stable
• succinct lead section that summarizes the entire topic
• a proper system of hierarchical headings
• a substantial, but not overwhelmingly large, table of contents
• images where appropriate
• It should be of appropriate length, tightly focused on the main topic without unnecessary detail
• it should use summary style to cover sub-topics that are treated in greater detail in any "daughter" articles.

Thanks, Prodego^talk 19:07, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes there are a lot of images, these(numbered from the top down, 1 being the picture on top, 2 the next down...) are, at least in my opinion, unnecessary 5,6,7,8,10,13. Perhaps I should remove them?

I reworked the images, how is it now?

Now? ;-) If I didn't want pushing, I would have asked User:Procrastinator!

[edit] Hi BD2412, please help

I would like to request your help with serious NPOV and verifiability problems on the Arabic numerals page. I have mentioned it, yet again, here Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#December_17. Please help me recruit as many neutral and well-intending editors to the page to counter the strong and manifest bias. Regards, and thanks. csssclll (14:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC))

• I'm afraid I don't know enough about the subject matter to have any meaningful involvement. BD2412 T 02:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)