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[edit] Tony McCoy / A. P. McCoy

As a regular contributor to horse racing articles, please could you register a vote at Talk:A. P. McCoy as to which title you prefer - "Tony McCoy" or "A. P. McCoy". The vote closes at 12pm GMT on January 1st 2007. Thanks -- Zafonic 20:26, 20 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] UK Classic Races

I dislike it too and first changed it to "British Classic Races" to be consistent with the newly created British flat racing Champion Sire /Jockey/Apprentice/Trainer/Owner articles. However, elsewhere at Wiki you find where people have been adamant that the only proper name is "United Kingdom". I personally have no preference but want to be consistent with naming conventions. Also, I would have to think that there are Welsh and Scot trainers/jockeys/owners/fans etc. who don't want to call it "English" as it is their Classic Race(s) too. Also, the Triple Crown is referred to here at Wiki as the U.K. Triple Crown so our infobox should be consistent and not say that a horse was:

  • a U.K. Triple Crown Winner
  • an English Classic race winner
  • a British Champion Sire

As I'm not from the U.K., I don't think I should comment on what is the proper name. Perhaps this should be discussed by those knowledgeable and a policy arrived at for one consistent name to be used here to describe all. Handicapper 14:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. - I just remembered too that all the Categorys say "United Kingdom Racehorses/Racehorses Bred in the United Kingdom, Racehorses trained in the United Kingom/Horseracing in the United Kingdom and so on. Handicapper 16:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanx - I'll leave a message for User:Zafonic regarding the British flat racing Champion Sire (and others) he created. I actually prefer the "British" designation because it is easy and compact for writing at Wikipedia but will leave it up to others to decide what is right. Handicapper 14:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Nijinsky II

You might be interested in my comments at Talk:Nijinsky II regarding Find A Grave. Handicapper 15:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criterion Stakes

I've added a reference to the Criterion Stakes article. These "unreferenced" tags can be a bit of a nuisance, but I suppose we sometimes have to show that we're not just making it all up! -- Zafonic 20:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki sorting

According to Wikipedia for sorting purposes all surnames staring with Mc, O', etc. should be sorted as Mac or O for sorting purposes; i.e. McGuinness becomes Macguinness, McCoy becomes Maccoy and Eugene O'Neill is Eugene Oneill. See Martin McGuinness' edit page for yourself/yourselves for note from sorter.

Yours,

216.194.0.167 20:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gary Moore

I think you're right about Mr Moore - but you really ought to be telling Handicapper, not me! -- Zafonic 19:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I found his middle initial and changed it to Gary L. Moore on his two sons. Handicapper 15:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


Thanks. Handicapper 14:01, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


Have to admit that I knew almost nothing about Abernant but was much impressed when I read some on him. Please edit, add to, or delete from, any article that I create. Handicapper 15:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Winners since...

There is no reason why the winners lists can't begin earlier than 1988, although some of the details from further back might be harder to find, such as winning times and the full names of obscure trainers/jockeys.

The lists have evolved quite a bit over time, and I expect they will continue to do so. Last year I pushed the starting point of most existing lists back to 1988 (thanks to the Racing Post), before which they generally began at 2000. Already certain French and Irish classics have receded to 1970 and other big races will probably follow. -- Zafonic 18:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Rokeby Stables

Thanxs, but I'm aware of it as I'm the one who inserted the info in the Michael Tabor article [1] you referred to. The Rokeby article will shortly read Atlantic and English Channel (France/England) or whatever terminology. I believe Rokeby/Mellon is the only one to win the Kentucky Derby, Epsom D, and Arc but I left it unfinished as I wasn't 100% sure he is the only one and wanted to check info on possible UK Classic race wins by Rex C. Ellsworth. I'm preparing a bio on the controversial Ellsworth who won the Kentucky Derby and the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe. Ellsworth isn't on any of the Wikipedia owners list for the UK Classics but it's possible he is under a stable name. Or, he may have been the breeder but not owner of a UK Classic winner. Thanx again. I certainly appreciate someone double-checking my work as accuracy is essential. Anytime you see a mistake, please change it. Handicapper 16:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] John Reid (jockey)

I made a few minor adjustments to your article on John Reid to follow Wikipedia's format standards for name/birth/place etc. (We are global internet, so identifying someone by "country" is important.) Also, note that if you want, you can use Template:Horseracing personalities infobox for these biographies. Thanx. Handicapper 14:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


Sorry, I clicked on you instead of the article creator who it seems isn't contributing here anymore anyway. Handicapper 19:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)


Re: Bruce Hobbs - I think he is a British jockey only who was born in the U.S. Perhaps do an Infobox for him which shows his place of birth but change the first line to say "British", not "American". Handicapper 13:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Just a side note. The article for Battleship (horse) shows the trainer as "Reg Hobbs". Is it a nickname or father, perhaps, or coincidence? If so, it should be mentioned in his bio. Handicapper 13:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] New Jockey category

I made a new Category "Jockeys killed while racing" so if you know any in the UK, France, etc. that fit. Because its realtively small, I think one category is probaby enough but if you wish, divide them by country. Handicapper 16:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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