User talk:Batzarro/Archive 1

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You can change the image by putting in the correct filename between the brackets [[Image:Batzarro_Image.jpg]]. This will give your own image. KittenKlub 16:47, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I am not an administrator. You can look at the help pages for Userboxes for the instructions. Wikipedia:Userboxes has the info. KittenKlub 16:52, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

You know a lot for a non-administrator. I am a Wikipedian in Australia and I would like to get Adminship very much. Batzarro

Well I don't wanna be an administrator ;) so that's why as well. Also I am kinda controversial sometimes... KittenKlub 17:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm from The Netherlands BTW KittenKlub 17:07, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

First check whether it is not a copyrighted picture, because most pictures are copyrighted. If it is not use the Upload file option <--- see the left of your screen and fill in the details like source and license. If you took the picture yourself just say so otherwise mention the website and check whether the website is free (because most aren't). KittenKlub 17:25, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Britney Spears 2 Mutant images 3 Re: userboxes suck man 4 JEdi 5 RE: HELP 6 Email, on IM 7 RE: Image 8 Bduke's userboxes 9 Re: Name 10 Change to pagan userbox image 11 Jain Userbox 12 Your userboxes question 13 Jainism 14 Symbol 15 Buddhism 16 Ashida Kim 17 Chinese martial art 18 Capoeira 19 Torrie Wilson 20 Image copyright problem with Image:BLADE_POSTER_ART.jpg 21 Old English Bulldog 22 Carrie Underwood & Kelsey Picture 23 Please leave spaces 24 Image Tagging Image:Warg.jpg 25 Sauron in Bakshi's LOTR film 26 WritersCramp userpage 27 Removing material from discussion pages 28 Meeting fair use doctrine (was "Vandalism") 29 Other comments from Batzarro 30 Administrators 31 Wikipedia policy 32 Stop spamming admins 33 fair image vandal 34 O rite 35 vandalism is unnaceptable 36 Welcome! 36.1 Additional tips 37 Edit War 38 Image copyright problem with Image:KIRPAN.jpg 39 Image copyright problem with Image:Kirpan.jpg 40 Picture use 41 Read my lips

[edit] Britney Spears

I keep adding stuff to the Britney Spears page,but i am stuck in an edit war. Batzarro 17:00, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Try talking to them on the talk page of Britney Spears. I'll see what I can do. Gimme a moment KittenKlub 17:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

From what I see is that they don't want too much trivia and I think it is correct. Some parts were kept, but you might want to talk to Fabricationary what is appropriate and what isn't, because there are many things but most are not that relevant in general. Try talking about it on the Talk page and I think that you can work it out. KittenKlub 17:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

I am from Australia,which country are you from?Batzarro

I am a fan of Angelina Jolie,CArrie underwood,and Britney.

How can I attach a photo of 1 of em on my user page.Batzarro 17:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Your page looks great now. You made one little mistake. You closed the Image tag with 4]'s instead of 2]'s. I know very little of Carrie Underwood. She is pretty well known in the US but not that known in Europe, so we haven't heard that much from her over here. But I'll give it a listen. KittenKlub 17:44, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Could you explain what are 4s and 2s Batzarro 17:48, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I was a bit cryptical. You typed [[Image:Angelina Jolie.jpg|thumb|right|I am a major fan of Angelina Jolie]]]] but that way you get some ] in your user page. So if you type [[Image:Angelina Jolie.jpg|thumb|right|I am a major fan of Angelina Jolie]] it'll be correct or (even better) [[Image:Angelina Jolie.jpg|thumb|right|I am a major fan of [[Angelina Jolie]]]] because that'll give a link to Angelina as well. KittenKlub 17:50, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Britney Spears is popular everywhere :) Good nite :D KittenKlub 17:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

My edit's still there; it's nothing major, just moving it out of Category:Female singers into the new subcategory Category:American female singers. Crystallina 19:45, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

All I did was change it to category American female singers, nothing more; I'm finished with it for now. Crystallina 12:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mutant images

The images you added to Template:User brotherhood and Template:User mutant have not been released under a free license--they are not allowed to be used in userboxes or on user pages. See point #9 of the fair use policy. —Andux 06:44, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: userboxes suck man

Userboxes aren't my gig, but I do know the rules for using images in them are a lot more strict than they are for normal articles. It's all got to do with copyright and legal mumbo jumbo like that, but the skinny of it is you can't use an image on your user page or in a userbox unless there aren't restrictions on its use. Basically, only images that have been tagged with a "GFDL" template in their summaries. Most images from comic books and things like that aren't allowed. That's about all I know. I imagine the people who do Wikipedia:WikiProject Userboxes know more. –Abe Dashiell ^(t/c) 04:36, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, mostly it's original artwork, generic public domain stuff, and really old images. It's an encyclopedia, though, so finding cool images for people to use on their user pages isn't a high priority. –Abe Dashiell ^(t/c) 04:49, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JEdi

But i guess its no big deal if i keep em on my user page. Why can't we add sith and jedi as funny religions. Did you see my user page? Batzarro 04:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: HELP

Hi, to add a contents table in your user page, you need to add == Section == to the user page not ----. And if you upload an image and you want to use it you have to add it to the page like this, [[Image:Example1.JPG|thumb|right|100px]] for example, the px thing is for how big you want the picture to be on the page. The right is how you align, you can align centre, right or left. Thumb is for thumbnail. --Terence Ong 05:54, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email, on IM

Hi, could you specify your email. Go to my preferences and you see email, so others can email you. Do you use IRC, MSN, Yahoo, AOL etc. ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Terenceong1992 (talk • contribs).

[edit] RE: Image

Oh yes, you may like to look here. It has all the official policies of uploading files on Wikipedia. On the left side of the page, there is this toolbox and you will see upload file. That's how you upload images. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Terenceong1992 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Bduke's userboxes

Thanks but no thanks. I prefer them as they were and am inclined to think that what you did was vandelism. Please leave my user page alone. Thanks. Bduke 10:05, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Name

Indeed, I use Ankalagon as a name because of the Ancalagon dragon in Tolkien's work. I use it with a K because back in my irc days, the nick was in use. I use it as a nick because I find poetically beautiful that Ancalagon, a symbol of the Greater Evil, destroys Thangorodrim Gates (and, ultimately, the Greater Evil) upon his fall.--Ankalagon 10:47, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Change to pagan userbox image

Could you please explain why you changed the image for the pagan case of Template:User religion? The pentagram is a Wiccan symbol, not one that stands for all of paganism, and as a Hellenic polytheist I would rather not have this image, which does not represent my religion, placed on my userpage as representing it without my consent. Not all pagans are Wiccan. - AdelaMae ^{(talk - contribs)} 14:51, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that's fine. No offense taken. - AdelaMae ^{(talk - contribs)} 00:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

There is really no symbol for paganism as a whole. Like I said, I am a Hellenic polytheist. One organization I belong to, Hellenion, uses a twelve-pointed star as their symbol. Other symbols used by members of my particular religion include the thunderbolt and the caduceus. Personally, I wear a necklace with an emblem of Medusa. I liked the image that was there because it was really abstract; it could either look like fire (a common element in pagan rituals) or a mountain range (since many pagans feel a deep connection with nature). As to whether I worship Zeus, well, I prefer to say I "honor" rather than "worship", but I do honor him as part of my religious practice and I do pray to him on occasion. - AdelaMae ^{(talk - contribs)} 06:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jain Userbox

That version of OM is a SIKH SYMBOL not a JAIN SYMBOL. I am going to consider that vandalism but I am not going to report you. Jst next time, know what you are talking about. --Shell 14:02, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I am a jain veggiterian. Please refer to my article on Jain vegetarianism. I am considering it vandalism because you took another religions symbol and typical colors and put it on another religion. That would be like me putting the generalized devanagari symbol of OM on a christianity userbox. --Shell 14:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your userboxes question

Um. Well, the former is at Beliefs towares the top (use the code {{user ape-equality}} to add to your userpage), the latter however I am unsure of, I haven't heard of "independent tibet", but it could be at Political Parties, if thats what you mean. And yes. it seems the splitting of user userbox page has goes a little mad. Ian¹³_ID:540053 15:10, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I believe they hae just been split, however I will take a look. Ian¹³_ID:540053 15:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Any good? Ian¹³_ID:540053 15:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jainism

Yes, I also follow hinduism. Please read my user page. I give the basic relation between Jainism and Hinduism. "All Jains are Hindus but not all Hindus are Jains" --Shell 20:11, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Symbol

There are multiple symbols of jainism. There is a swastika and there is a palm with the dharmic wheel and ahimsa written in the palm. There is also another symbol which combines the both of them. --Shell 05:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

What state are you from?

Ah. I have a handfull of tamil friends. I have mostly north indian and bangali friends thou. I prefer the south thou. The culture is less diluted. I can't stand most of todays bollywood movies. So much americanized crap. India has too much culture poisoning. --Shell 05:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I live in NYC. Well, that is to be expected of any movie star. The issue I have is the vast americanization of every aspect of indian life. I couldn't bring myself to watch one of the videos from garam masala. Basically john abhram smacking asses. Just pitiful and a shame to indian cinema. --Shell 06:09, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

My native language is english. I am learning hindi right now thou very loosely. --Shell 06:12, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

It is at the point where most people think that I'm of direct Indian decent. Most of my "desi" friends say "im browner than them." I am of Italian origin. 3rd generation. My grandfather came in his 20s. But, I find most of my daily routines, etc rooted in Indian tradition. I listen only to Hindi music and Telugu religious music. I can't stand most of american music. I also was not always a Jain. I was a Christian before. I made the change after I saw major problems. A faith is supposed to be a belief congruent with your true belief. Christianity did not fit my path. --Shell 15:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah. I have heard of sinhala but never studied it much. Is it as related to sanskrit as the other south languages? I mostly studied Telugu which I only went into a tiny bit. I think that the classification systems are just too screwed up. Sanskrit is classified as "indo-european" while Telugu is "dravidian" even thou Telugu had MAJOR Sanskrit influence. There are even Sanskrit words that remained intact through Telugu. A good example is Deva. Deva means god in both Sanskrit and Telugu but in Hindi, god is a different word (I forgot it) even thou Sanskrit and Hindi are supposed to be more related (being in the same family) --Shell 15:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm still in High School, thats all you need to know. Sorry, its just a policy to keep that I never disclose my age or specific location. --Shell 15:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Same here,i am an 18 year old guy at melbourne. Thas all i tell anyone.

Well, I'm not obsessed with indian culture, etc. I don't even remember. I like life like this thou. --Shell 17:03, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Guy. Why? --Shell 17:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

It's really easy to eat without meat. Also, only certain Jains don't eat seeds. Some don't even eat root veggies or veggies grown underground. Many Jains (such as me) are not like that thou. And also, the broom and mouth thing isn't really practiced anymore. Also, I don't know any Jains that don't get their hair cut. Most of this was only practiced by very strict Jains in the "old days." But, many textbooks make it seem like it still happens in the majorty of all Jains. It's sad that it has to be that way. --Shell 17:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buddhism

No, nor am I interested in trying it. I am happy with my religion. --Shell 17:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

This conversation is getting a little personal. Can we tone this down? --Shell 17:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ashida Kim

Could you please tell in what way you thing the Ashida Kim article is biased? You put the NPOV tag there but didn't explain your reasoning at the talk page. I think the present version is quite neutral, given the subject of article is someone representing the lunatic fringe of martial arts community (and also a Wikipedia vandal). jni 10:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese martial art

Well, what does best mean to you? Maybe it just means the best-looking acrobatics to some people, in which case you can watch some Wushu tournaments, but that's probably not what you mean. There's San Shou, but it's more or less kickboxing. Anything that involves full contact sparring is better than nothing. I don't think there's such a thing as the best art unless the art includes all possible techniques. So, mixed martial arts is the most complete, by definition. You can call it JKD if you want, but it's just a name. The process is what matters. Shawnc 06:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Hapkido is supposed to be practical, just make sure you get to spar in school instead of doing forms and predetermined exercises too often. Wing Chun techniques aren't effectiveness in the ring so far, so beware. If you're interested in becoming a good fighter at today's level, you need to do both grappling and striking. The consensus is that for striking you should do Muay Thai or some form of kickboxing and boxing, and for grappling Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and wrestling (amateur/sport wrestling). Other grappling styles include Sambo and Judo. You can try other arts to mix it up, but those are the basics, if you will. A good role model would be this guy. A good mixed martial arts gym will tell you everything you need to know, maybe you can try this place. Shawnc 18:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Shawnc, they should have sparring as a major component of their curriculum, as well as groundwork. Ultimately, the best martial art for you is the one you like. Hapkido and Muay Thai are both fine martial arts for young people. I've run into them doing san shou, and they seem to produce tough fighters IME. I haven't sparred with any JKD or BJJ guys (that I know of, they didn't start to get really popular until I was mostly out of the tournament thing, I retired from san shou competition in 1991 or so), so I won't comment. Also, some Hwarang Do guys I ran into about 20 years ago were plenty tough. Of Chinese styles, it is almost impossibly difficult to find a good T'ai Chi teacher (my fave), but styles like Baguazhang, Xingyiquan, Praying Mantis and some Eagle Claw are fairly complete. --Fire Star 22:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capoeira

Looks fun, and probably no school teaches it solely for combat. Take it up if you like the dance. Shawnc 09:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

If I had to pick out of those: San Shou first and then Hapkido, not due to grappling but because you may get to spar and compete more often in San Shou (I enjoyed it in university), but there is some ground fighting in Hapkido -- to be good you have to do ground techniques seriously, for which I'd definitely suggest you give Brazilian Jiu Jitsu a try or at least Judo. Choy Li Fut is a bit obscure, and Aikido curriculum has a rep for being aesthetic. Ninjutsu I recommend to guys who like to dress up as ninjas, although this one guy won a couple matches (and was beaten up for the next three). If you liked boxing and hated Shotokan/Karate, you'd probably like Muay Thai.

Pure strikers often have a hard time against pure grapplers, while both of them will have a hard time against experienced mixed martial artists who do everything. See Ramon Dekkers vs. Genki Sudo for example. Anyway we should be using these pages for editorial discussions only, but feel free to send me an email if you want chat some more or see some videos. Shawnc 20:29, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Torrie Wilson

when you upload a picture and it comes up saying that theres another file with the same name please change your upload name and dont carry on as it changes the orginal picture to the one you have uploaded! as you cancelled out my upload of torrie wilson, which i have now had to upload again because of you. (Lil crazy thing 18:20, 19 January 2006 (UTC))

i didnt say theres anything wrong with it but you use the same file name which was already in use so it cancelled out my upload picture of her, i dont care if you think my picture "sucks" this isnt a matter of whos picture is better, plus you didnt even use the right copyright on the picture either.

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:BLADE_POSTER_ART.jpg

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can i copy your page bro? Ferall 14:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old English Bulldog

Hello, further to your addition that the OEB is derived from Mastiffs etc., would you please provide the citation for your statement at the article. I am not saying you are wrong, but this far along into the article and your bold statement would require a citation to ensure accuracy. Cordially WritersCramp 13:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I read your response at my talk page. I think if you want your Mastiff comment added you would have to do more research and find a citation. Currently, it is just Point-of-View. I am going to remove it for now, until you find some citations. Cordially WritersCramp 14:17, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I pulled out my Old English Bulldog books and determined the following: Historians are fairly confident that the Old English Bulldog is derived from ancient war dogs, such as, the old Mastiff or Alaunt. Others believe that the true origin of the breed is not entirely clear. One safe theory is that the Bulldog was first developed in the British Isles and was originally bred for the sole purpose of bull-baiting. If you want to confirm my work the citations are:

• Shaw, V. (1879). The Classic Encyclopedia of the Dog pg. 84. ISBN 051743282X
• Dieter, F. (1996). Fighting Dog Breeds pg. 34
• Dickerson, M. (2005) Bulldog pg. 10 ISBN 1593782454
• Brearley, J. The Book of the Bulldog ISBN 0866220275
• Mollett, K. (1997) The Story of the Real Bulldog pg. 9 ISBN 0793804914

Terriers were not used until the Bull and Terrier. Please read that article and you will see how the breeding worked through.

Pug came after the bulldog, so it was not a progenitor to the bulldog.

Before you edit any more dog breed articles, would you please buy a bunch of dog breed books, specialized for the breeds you are interested in. Your additions, are highly Point-Of-View and NO citations. Thank you WritersCramp 16:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I reverted your Dog fighting is legal in Pakistan at the Bully Kutta article. I will get back to you with citations in the near future. Are you citing the Molloser.com webpage ? I notice he is claiming it is legal to dog fight in Pakistan. If you have some other citations, please let me know, we can incorporate them into the Dog fighting article too. Cordially WritersCramp 19:28, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

The United National Kennel Club states that dog fighting is illegal in Pakistan [1]

"Contrary to the popular belief Dog Fighting is illegal in Pakistan, and if caught with such material you will face lengthy legal proceedings in Pakistan. Elsewhere you risk hefty fines and possible criminal records. It is also illegal to attend any event where an animal is subjected to any form of cruel treatment. Law enforcement is very heavy handed in Pakistan. Animal welfare organisations and law enforcement agencies in Pakistan are determined to crack down heavily on these events this winter." BB BionicBoner 23:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carrie Underwood & Kelsey Picture

Copied from Tvaughn05's Talk Page
YO I liked that photo of Carrie on your page:I uploaded it. Anyway,is Kelsy a celeb or sum friend of yours. No offense just curious.Batzarro 17:37, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

• I love it too!! Thanks for uploading it!! Kelsey is one of my friends, (soon to be a celebrity..lol) Thanks Man! Tvaughn05 18:44, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please leave spaces

When you write, can you please leave spaces after commas and periods? Thanks.T-1000 00:03, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Warg.jpg

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[edit] Sauron in Bakshi's LOTR film

Hey, Batzarro. It's been a little while since I watched Bakshi's LOTR all the way through, but to my recollection he doesn't depict Sauron visually at all after the prologue with the backstory about the creation of the Rings. Of course, Bakshi's film only gets as far as Helm's Deep, so it's not a huge problem; Sauron remains mostly an off-screen menace for most of the story anyway. Hope this helps! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:42, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm... I'd say that Bakshi's film was a valiant attempt that ultimately failed. It's arguably closer to Tolkien's novel than the Jackson films are, since it retains more of Tolkien's dialogue, but I don't think it conveys the sense of a complete sub-created world as well as Jackson's films do. It's like a literal translation of a novel or poem written in a foreign language that loses some of the poetic sensibility of the original.

You ask if it has "action packed battles" or if it's disappointing — its battles aren't particularly strong, but honestly that's not what I see as the heart of The Lord of the Rings. I love The Lord of the Rings for the depth and beauty of the world Tolkien created, and that's where (in my opinion) Jackson surpassed Bakshi. There are some good parts of the Bakshi film — his Nazgûl are wonderfully creepy, and Lothlorien is beautiful (as I say, it's been a while since I saw it all the way through, but I think I may prefer Bakshi's portrayal of Galadriel to Jackson's). But he also makes some questionable choices, such as making Sam a comic buffoon and putting Boromir in a Viking helmet, not to mention turning the conflict between Gandalf and Saruman into a disco light show. He also doesn't manage to convey the thrust of the narrative as well as Jackson does — Bakshi keeps Tolkien's words, but doesn't convey Tolkien's meaning as well as Jackson.

Ralph Bakshi's half-completed Lord of the Rings is probably about as good a film adaptation as it was possible to make before the technology which enabled Peter Jackson to complete his masterpiece. Even though the film is flawed, I still think it's a pity that he wasn't able to complete the story. It would have been interesting to see how he finished the story, and it would be nice to have two complete versions of The Lord of the Rings on film. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 16:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WritersCramp userpage

Hi. Please do not restore offensive material to User:WritersCramp. This user is on the verge of a lenghty ban for repeatedly violating WP:NPA. Please do not encourage him. The Land 10:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

You got it. While we don't have a policy against homophobic neonazis per se, we do have a policy against him using every opportunity to be offensive about other users. The Land 10:56, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removing material from discussion pages

Please don't remove material from discussion/talk pages, whether it's a user talk page like mine or an article talk page. I understand that it might bother you, but it' not up to you to decide that it doesn't need to be there. In particular, removing text that you feel is detrimental to you only makes you look worse, not the original poster. Elf | Talk 16:30, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

That Buffoon Zaminum reverted my page and deleted alll the pics fair use ?

[edit] Meeting fair use doctrine (was "Vandalism")

Why did you delete my Britney Spears upload and vandalize my user page? Batzarro 16:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

First off, the Britney pick you uploaded was from a commercial photographer for a wire service; fair use images must be images created with the direct intention of promoting the subject. See point 2 of Wikipedia's fair use policy. For all images on your userpage, those are blatantly against the fair use doctrine. See point 9 of Wikipedia's fair use policy. As time goes by, all such instances will be eliminated from userpages, you just happen to be one of the earliest to be affected. -- user:zanimum

[edit] Other comments from Batzarro

Hey you are a serious GOODY 2 shoes vandal. I was using the britney pic on MY page until some idiot named kooorooo added it to britneys page and u had to revert the photos on my page.

HJey,many users use fair images on their user pages. YOU cant be reverting all of us so lets leave it alone. Batzarro 16:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I and others can be reverting every fair use image off userpages. Lead me to some other users that fail to comply with Wikipedia's fair use policy #8, and I will deal with their pages also. -- user:zanimum

[edit] Administrators

Kooorooo tells me you want "to take it to the admins". Here are some links that should be of help to you: Wikipedia:List of administrators, Wikipedia:Requests for administrator attention. -- user:zanimum

Thanks buddyFerall 17:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia policy

From your message to me:

• "...my edits are my point of view": This is called "original research" and it is against Wikipedia policy as called out in What Wikipedia is not.
• "... which I gathered from moloss.com": This is fine except that in the one instance I've checked so far (Old English Bulldog), you added info that the terrier was mixed into the breed line, but the page you gave in the edit summary as a reference says nothing about terriers. So if you cite something, it's helpful for other editors to be able to actually find it.
• (slur against other user): This is also explicitly prohibited by Wikipedia policy ("Do not insult, harass or intimidate those with whom you have a disagreement. Rather, approach the matter in an intelligent manner, and engage in polite discussion. If a user acts uncivilly, uncalmly, uncooperatively, insultingly, harassingly or intimidatingly towards you, this does not give you an excuse to do the same unto them").
• Incidentally, the Three Revert Rule on Wikipedia says that users "must not perform more than three reversions, in whole or in part, on a single Wikipedia article within 24 hours", which is what you did with Old English Bulldog on Jan 22-23[2]. I've added a topic for dicussion on terriers to the article's talk page; please take it up there, civilly, to prove your case. It's much more pleasant for everyone that way.

Elf | Talk 17:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stop spamming admins

Please stop spamming the talk pages of admins. It is disruptive. If you want a page unprotected, go to WP:RFP. --GraemeL ^(talk) 18:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Batzarro, you promised not to put fair use images on your userpage, and then I see this. I have been forced remove them again and to reprotect the userpage. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fair image vandal

I deleted fair images on your userpage. Looks like you dont practice what you preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Batzarro 10:55, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

My apologies on leaving the fair use images on, I focus on editing Wikipedia in positive and large amounts, and don't usually narcissistically fawn over my userpage. They were hidden at the bottom, and I missed them. They have been removed now, and are simply links to these milestone edits. -- user:zanimum

Why did you remove the tag on Kooorooo's page, that said he was suspected to be a sock puppet of you? It was only suspected. -- user:zanimum

Machang,bad scene ado!!!!!!!! They blocked my page too. Ferall 16:16, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

No u bugger lets speak in Sinhala,they cannot understand ey modaya ta thanney naha ney apita unc ta thanda puluang?

kamanna apite oya dmn ethakota eyear block karanda puluang netha?

[edit] O rite

HuthO PARKKE Pariah. Thamse avurudu keeyatha Ceylon te inne ado?

na thamil pessuna epadi irrukuma???

MOKA?

Ok but I feel lazy machan. I know about tildes you bugger. Ferall 16:30, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

no fuck you,i will be there in half an hour,sms me.

Besides are you going to Mandy's for the dance tonight? Ferall

[edit] vandalism is unnaceptable

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Hipocrite - «Talk» 20:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I am not an adminstrator, but I see no valuable contributions from your account, ever. Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] Edit War

Ok ,the edit war between us is over. Batzarro 08:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Good. -- user:zanimum

You realise that that totem pole could have been left on your page, as it was released into the public domain by its photographer. -- user:zanimum

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:KIRPAN.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:KIRPAN.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Kirpan.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Kirpan.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thank you. Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I am certain neither of those images were pd-old, as they were taken in 2001. Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

The picture of the thing carries the copyright of the photographer, not the thing. Hipocrite - «Talk» 15:16, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

The sockpuppet situation is that you need to stop using them. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:14, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I have not accused you of vandalism. You are making good faith efforts to improve the encyclopedia. However, due to either your inability or unwillingness to follow proper procedure here (including spaces after commas, for instance), and you general unwillingness to learn the various policies of the encyclopedia (WP:NOR stands out), you are generally unhelpful. Additionally, it is quite obvious that you have used sockpuppets before. Hipocrite - «Talk» 16:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture use

What TV series is Image:Angelw.jpg from? -- user:zanimum

[edit] Read my lips

YOU DO NOT HAVE 2500 EDITS. You miraculously have survived 1400 edits without being permanently banned. But do not ever edit that list of non-admins with lots of edits, or you will face serious and permanent consequences on this project. Also, you have made 128 edits to your userpage in 14 days. Stop. Okay? I've only made 141 since 23 December 2002. -- user:zanimum