Talk:Battle of Bouvines

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Does this really have anything to do with the Investiture Conflict, as the battlebox says? Adam Bishop 19:46, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Marginal French victory?

"Marginal French victory"? Is that a joke? The answer is in the article, at the end of it : "John returned to England to face the barons whose possessions in Normandy he had lost. After Bouvines there were no important wars in Western Europe until the 1290s." Bouvines IS NOT à "marginal" victory... Clio64B 00:24, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Importance

I'm quite sure this isn't well-known to the average reader; please see the importance scale for the criteria being used. Kirill Lokshin 21:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Kirill, I agree with you about how well it's known (that is, it isn't that well known), but to be honest I dislike that importance criteria in the first place. This battle may not be well known outside of France, but it was probably the most important battle in French military history (some historians say this battle made modern France).UberCryxic 03:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, we need to try and work towards some consistency in how we assess these things. Having said that, is it actually well-known (as in by non-historians) in France? That would qualify it for "Top" importance. Kirill Lokshin 17:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)