Talk:Battle of Bosworth Field
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[edit] Image
This article needs some images. How does one go about doing that? Can I source images from other websites? ~~T. Servaia~~ June 24th 2006
I have some images from the actual field, taken by myself, but I have some doubts about the usefulness of these images. They're just pictures of hills and the like. Bunceboy November 5th 2006
[edit] Clarification
The article says "Richard of York was the third and last English king to die in battle – Harold Godwinson at Hastings, 1066, killed by the Normans, was the first. Richard III was the second." This doesn't make sense. Who was the second king killed in battle ? 136.153.2.2 07:32, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Did Jasper Tudor fight in the Battle of Bosworth Field? "There is no contemporary record that Jasper Tudor, earl of Pembroke, fought at Bosworth... " (The Tudor Nobility. pg 50) Does anyone have counter-evidence?
See Wikipedia:WikiProject Battles
An event mentioned in this article is a August 22 selected anniversary.
Merged in main item (see history) except for:
"Thus the five Yorkist peers, the earl of Essex and lords Audley, Dinham, Dudley and Ferriers are not named as being present at any engagement in 1469-71. They did enter London in triumph with Edward IV on 21 May 1471 but they could have joined him only after the fighting was done.
"That they were caught up in the politics of these years is shown by their removal from all commissions during the redemption. Their is therefore a strong presumption that they were known to be favourable towards Edward IV." (p70. The wars of the Roses. AJ Pollard.)
Originally from an article on the lord Dudley.(by Faedra)
Stan 17:18, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Trimmer
Um, what's a "trimmer"? See "The Campaign and its Politics": "The two notorious trimmers in 1469–71 were the young John Talbot, 3rd Earl of Shrewsbury, and the older more experienced Lord Stanley...". Thanks. Her Pegship 19:09, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
- In sailing trimming is to adjust the sails so that they receive the prevailing wind properly; so this often affected the direction of the ship. A trimmer is, by extension, a person who stands outside a discussion, debate, battle or war until it becomes clear which side will win and then joins the winning side. In other words they wait for, and react to, a prevailing wind.Saga City 06:34, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
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- Beauty! "Vacillator" is not as picturesque but certainly clearer. Thanks. Her Pegship 21:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Killed in Battle
Doesn't Richard I's death count towards dying in a battle?
Does anyone have a list of the men killed in the Battle of Bosworth 22 August 1485?
I have a 16th great grandfather who I have just learned was killed that day. The information does not include which side he was on and his name is not in any of the lists I have found on the internet.
Several on the surnames listed are also listed as surnames of Bradshaw wives, I am not sure if these surnames are connected to my line. The surnames are on both sides in the Battle.
His name is Ralph Bradshaw, grandson of Roger De Bradshawe and Margaret De Mesnil. He is also a descendent of John Bradshaw, Title: Sir; Saxon Knight of ” The family lineally derived from Sir John Bradshaw, of Bradshaw, a Saxon living at the time of the Conquest, who was reinvested in his estate by the Norman. He married the daughter and sole heir of Sir Robert Remington, knight of Remington and left a son and heir, Sir Robert Bradshaw.”
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
B. Shackel
[edit] Blackadder
Does the fact that this battle was the setting for the first Blackadder episode note merit a mention on this page? I'm happy for it not to be on there, but I'd say it should be there. --JimmyTheWig 08:31, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- IMHO it should be included -- but in a section clearly headed Trivia.Saga City 11:00, August 23, 2005 (UTC)
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- That's what I did here [1]. --JimmyTheWig 15:01, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
