Talk:Battle of Artemisium

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[edit] Persian victory?

Hopefully the anonymous user reads this...why is this a Persian victory? Adam Bishop 21:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I've looked at the links and added some explanatory text. The Greeks also took a beating during the battle, and once Thermopylae fell, there was no purpose in maintaining station at Artemisium, so they fell back towards Salamis. Choess 23:45, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, I am the anonymous writer. You tell me, at the battle of Marathon perisa had something like 20 000 soldiers, with of course some Herodotus exageration, Persia lost 6 400 men that was not the entire regiment however because they fled (retreat) we consider it a Greek victory. The very same scenario consitutes a victory in for Persia at Artemisium, Greek's fleet was not wiped out but it fled, (WHEN AN ARMY OR NAVY RETREATS IT IS THEIR LOSS) following the bad news at thermopylae. Even so when the Greeks went, Artemisium was sacked. Please reply to this

I guess so...but in the overall scheme of the war, it is as indecisive as Marathon is a victory, wouldn't you say? (Or we could say Marathon is just as indecisive as Artemisium.) Adam Bishop 03:31, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

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Are you Adam Bishop, I like some of your discussions, you seem quite knowledgable on the subject of Greco-Persian war, I like to think I'm am too, by the way are you Canadian? I am too, nice Though I am a much younger than you think, if you don't mind please give your email. By the way at the matter at hand, you are right in that you agree with me. You are absolutely correct if we consider Marathon a Greek victory then the same features made Artemisium a Perisan victory. But like you say if Marathon was indecisive that applies to Artemisium as well. Greeks have a monopoly over the Greco-Persian Wars accounts. I just wish the Persians had at least one account of the war. No thanks to Alexander and the more brutal Arab invasion which burned atll of persian libraries.

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By the way Adam have you read this new book called Persian fire, its a great book it is written by Tim Holland I highly suggest it.

Well I'm not that knowledgeable, it's just a side interest. You can find my e-mail from "e-mail this user" on my user page, if you want. Adam Bishop 05:26, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

If anyone is going to make changes to the article, please state why in the discussion category. When an army or navy retreats it is a loss. Why because with this not only was it a tactical loss but also because now Persia marched to Athens unstopped and sacked the city. Besides which madmax myself and an admin already agreed on the result, what is your evidence. Don't edit war, without an explanation. --Arsenous Commodore 23:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)