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[edit] I have been wondering

It seems acceptable these days to use the word the word bastard as a general all purpose term of disapproval about another person, although, except in jocular situations, usually out of the hearing of the person who is being derided. Yet, nowadays we seem much more sensitive about referring directly to terms that are derogatory, so that words like nigger, queer, spastic etc., etc., are unlikely to be used in most contexts as descriptive terms. The term bastard seems to be rarely used accurately, with its precise meaning to describe a person whose parents are not legally married. Conversely there is a great increase in the birth of people of parents who are not married so that there is in actual fact a great increase, these past decades in people who truly are bastards. Why then is it customary to use the word as a general term of dissaproval in these new circumstances? Presumably, many of those calling others "bastards" are themselves also a true bastard?

Tolkny 11:54, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Tolkny, check out the Wiktionary entry on Bastard. You can see that its meaning with respect to a person's illegitimacy is but one of three that describe people. Therefore, it is not the one precise definition of the word; the other sense you describe is also a legitimate (hah!) definition. —RadRafe 14:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I tagged this as {{disambig-cleanup}} yesterday and have re-added this just now - for what a dab page should look like please see MoS:DP. Thanks/wangi 17:35, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Brookie wrote in his edit summary:

"This is a proper disambig page as far as I can see if Wangi disagrees can he fix it please?"

As I said above, read through MoS:DP on how disambig pages should be done. This one falls short on a number of counts (most!):

  1. Excessive wikilinking - only the links to the pages themself should be linked, not other terms
  2. Excessive bolding - only bold Bastard on the intro paragraph, do not bold other links (which is being done to differentiate them from the other wikilinks which shouldn't be there)
  3. Backwards - try to link to the disambiguated page with the first word in the line
  4. Using sentences - entries should nearly always be sentence fragments

I'll re-tag the article again - there is nothing wrong with an article carrying the cleanup tag. It allows others to bring it up to standard. I will try and do it myself, but if it's tagged someone else can do it before me, perhaps. Thanks/wangi 09:49, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Done. Thanks/wangi 10:21, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks Wangi - you're a star! Merry Xmas! Brookie :) - a collector of little round things! (Talk!) 11:31, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

It does look much better now. Thanks Wangi, jguk 11:52, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Video games?

I do know that there is a Super Famicom Bastard game, based on the anime, but I don't have enough detail to make an article on it. Does anyone else know about it?--Vercalos 08:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why was my text deleted?

There really is a video call "You Fat Bastards," spelt like "B**tards." I mean take a look at this link here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6302374111/qid=1146356353/sr=8-5/ref=sr_1_5/104-8278696-4940724?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=404272

It's a really good concert, you know?

[edit] Sorry forgot to mention.

It's by the rock group Faith No More

[edit] Misbegotten

Why does "Misbegotten" re-direct here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Jedi Master Bra'tac (talk • contribs) 25 October 2006.

bastardly: born out of wedlock; "the dominions of both rulers passed away to their spurious or doubtful offspring"- E.A.Freeman - someone being clever, I think. However, if you want to create an actual article about something called "Misbegotten" then I'm sure it would be entirely legitimate! To overwrite the redirect page, that is. Bubba hotep 18:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Misbegotten is an episode of Stargate Atlantis, and it already has a page

Not anymore - see Misbegotten Bubba hotep 20:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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