User talk:Barneca

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Contents 1 can editors who have been here for less than one month take a "wikibreak"? 2 Probabilities 3 Fabartus response 4 My RfA - thanks anyway 5 Alfonso Caycedo 6 My RfA 7 off line here only infrequently until may 8 Disagreement with Thatpeteguy's edits on Fort collins 9 Washington

[edit] can editors who have been here for less than one month take a "wikibreak"?

i won't be logging onto wikipedia again until approx. march, due to pressing issues in the real world. if you wish to discuss an edit i've already made, please use the "email this user" link to contact me. if you leave me a message on my talk page, it's unlikely i'll see it until march. barneca 02:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

back. barneca 17:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Probabilities

Thanks Barneca for the great note on my chat! Very professional hiding the puzzle answer :-) But no, I didn't guess, I used the C program I had written yesterday to provide numbers for the random pages topic.

<my prompt>factorials 1653406 250

(1653406)sub 250 / 1653406 ^ 250 is 0.981

So I get 1.9%, you got 1.8, round off. We must be using the same math :-) You use Maple or something? I'm pretty sure I can't do this with my desktop calculator :-) Pete St.John 15:57, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

nothing so elegant; i just used excel. i realized very quickly just how many digits there are in 1,600,000!, so i just went back to basics and created a little spreadsheet that calc'd p(n) for n = 1, then used that to calc it for n=2,3,4,........ i'm old enough, and nontechnological enough, that the only programming languages i've ever known how to use are basic and fortran, but i've found there is very little i need to do that can't be done in my dos-based quickbasic, or in excel.

and yes, i must admit i was a bit more pleased with myself than is really justifiable in figuring out how to hide the answer :) -barneca 16:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

ah, qbasic. In antiquity I wrote some multi-precision routines to get "large" prime numbers, in BASICA. I still use basic, sorta, because MS VisualBasic is a great way to bang out user interfaces for clients, but I switched to C for numerical computing long ago. But of course Excel, those things all have each other's DLLs, so multiprecision arithmetic, control flow, everything you could want, cool. Incidentally, you might be amused by Steganography if you haven't seen it. Pete St.John 16:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

so i'm a steganographer, and didn't even know it. or, perhaps more appropriately given all of the younger people i work with, a stegosaurus.  :) the question is, are you a steganalyst? -barneca 17:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

oh cool, maybe I can make a new neologism for my stash, we are "steganosauri" :-)

indeed. -barneca 17:33, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fabartus response

Roger on your last... No offense taken, though that's the appearance given. I'm just playing back with you as I didn't figure it was mean spirited. Be well. // FrankB 01:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA - thanks anyway

I wanted to say thanks; you get that the box is/was a joke. As for the Black Knight changes - growing up, I learned that ax[e] had an optional 'e' at the end when alone (and right now Firefox tells me no e). And the other was me transcribing another source. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 03:55, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the edit in question was not transcribed. Wanted to clear that up. — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 11:40, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

replied via email. --barneca (talk) 15:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alfonso Caycedo

You're welcome. Well, actually, I was there to remove the "thank you" thingy the IP left on the page but you were quicker than me, so I checked the rest of the article, in case someone forgot something, and noticed the accidental removal of the interwiki links. Don't worry about it, it happened to me too the first few times I removed spam (that's why I always check if they're still there when external links are removed). I guess we all learn something new every day :-). Happy editing! - Myanw 19:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for support in my unsuccessful RfA. I appreciate the support, and am disappointed on being judged by what in most opinions seem to be the wrong things. Until next time, edit on! :) — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 03:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] off line here only infrequently until may

if you have a comment or question about an edit i've made, please email me instead of leaving a comment here. i will not be logging in for quite a while, and likely won't see anything left here or leave something here, but be prepared to wait; i'll be logging in pretty infrequently for a while.

or, better yet, be bold and do whatever you want.

--barneca (talk) 16:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC) --barneca (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disagreement with Thatpeteguy's edits on Fort collins

Hi Barneca,

Was wondering how you qualify your assertion that my edits are POV and not fair.I live in Fort Collins and I feel my edits reflect what a signifigant number of people here would like to say on a page like this.Is it possible you don't live here?
I only ask to see your opinion and not to be difficult.I will hold off my edits pending a concensus between us and any others
interested.Please know I like living here and have raised my family here.I truly feel that even attributed edits can be steered
by ommision of countering attributed edits.So,lets tell it like it is together and we will have done something worthwhile.Being
new to Wikipedia I sense some arrogance and pettiness all around and I wonder if this is so.(Not a jab just asking for direction)
Hope this finds you well and whole. -\--Thatpeteguy 02:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

hi thatpeteguy, let me clarify/emphasize that i am not saying your opinions are right or wrong; i have not been in the fort collins area for many years, and don't know, for example, whether marilyn musgrave is a rubber stamp for bush or not. what i am saying is that they aren't neutral. wikipedia, as it was explained to me, is not trying to be Truth with a capital T, it's trying to be an encyclopedia. things that you believe to be true, but which do not represent a neutral point of view, or which cannot be attributed to a verifiable source, are going to be edited out by many, many people here. you and i might disagree about whether that's the way it should be, but that battle has already been fought many times, and i doubt it's going to change. if you want to look into this in truly excruciating detail, you can read WP:Neutral point of view and WP:Attribution.

if you can tone down the rhetoric, and cite verifiable sources for your edits, you may be able to hash something out with people on the talk pages, and a consensus might emerge. or, it may not.

as to your other comment, yes, there is a lot of arrogance and pettiness around here, just like the real world. there's also a lot of fascinating people and information around here, just like the real world. --barneca (talk) 11:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply- You seem to think you are talking to a child so let me respond by saying this: 1:I know what I need to do and not do and so I don't need to "take this to the talk page". 2:Don't take my kindness for weakness so let me "clarify/emphasize" that I don't need your opinion I just wanted it. 3:I can tell you haven't been here in many years and haven't seen the infestation of christians and elitists. 4:Wikipedia "as it was explained to me" is a psuedopedia. 5:I was an election worker and so I DO know how Musgrave election edit is absolutely true.Not many ballots made it out of larimer county without my handling them.I was also part of certifying a vast majority of electronic voting machines.My signature is on the seals of many of them.I did this under the mandates of the state because of statewide policy now.I was one of the auditors as well in all three of the contested races.6:Are you seriously trying to tell me on the internet about the real world?You don't know me and I don't you,the difference being I tried to talk to you and you tried to talk at me. 7:Yeah,you got me on not submiting these facts as Wikipedia expects but that's only inexperience and not bad intent. So,I will do as I see fit and leave it to Wikipedia to decide if I can play well with others.I do feel you are probably fascinating and here's food for thought:"It is better to be self-assured than re-assured"(mine)or my favorite "Any effort expended trying to understand anothers way only brings you closer to your own"(credit forgotten,St. Francis?) I still got love for ya!--Thatpeteguy 05:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

i was not talking to you like a child, i was talking to you like a civilized human being, who it appeared was new to wikipedia. my mistake. please stay off my talk page. i have absolutely NO desire to get into any type of discussion with passive-aggressive people. it is obvious it would be a serious time sink. goodbye. --barneca (talk) 11:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Washington

Barneca, I apologize if I gave you the impression I was not discussing your point during the discussion regarding "Washington State" vs. "Washington state". I have also apologized on the page as well, and clarified my disagreement. Cascadia ^{TALK| HISTORY} 06:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

(copy of reply to Cascadia's talk page, for completeness) Thanks for the note, it wasn't necessary but it is appreciated. I was starting to get pretty cranky there at the end; sorry about that. Believe it or not, I don't feel strongly about the capital S, I just feel strongly about being listened to. I still disagree, but will defer to the 85 people who feel differently. --barneca (talk) 10:37, 5 April 2007 (UTC)