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[edit] Bias in the Criticism Section

The crticism section is very biased in favor of the show. The few criticisms, which are vaguely and briefly mentioned, are quickly rebuted and disregarded. Also, many valid criticisms such as the shows puported encouragement of conformity, lack of individuality of the characters, one sided messages, etc. are not mentioned. Positive aspects of the show should be discussed separatley from the criticisms. Retep412

Then find some sourced criticism. There's a lot of complaints about the show so it shouldn't be hard to find some real information from a reputable source. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Right. Everytime someone has added critcism it has been unsourced. Everytime they were prompted to source it, they did not and it was removed per WP:V. I imagine it wouldn't be hard to find sourced criticism from a WP:RS if someone would take the time to do it.--Isotope23 01:45, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
A quick search on-line turned up a report by the Indiana Department of Education that discusses the negative aspects of the show. For example, "The court also noted legitimate criticism of Barney–“that his shows do not assist children in learning to deal with negative feelings and emotions.” According to one critic, 'Barney offers our children a one-dimensional world where everyone must be happy and everything must be resolved right away."
www.doe.state.in.us/legal/pdf/quarterly_reports/2005_aprjune.pdf Retep412
Almost but not quite. They are reporting on a court case, "Lyons Partnership v. Ted Giannoulas", which does not state who the critic was nor if the quotes were taken out of context. It would be good to see where the court got it's criticism from. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 17:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article needs a ton of work

  • There should be a list of video releases (most of which are well-produced 50 minute shows that are not shown on TV)
  • the main picture needs to be a screenshot of the television show, not the video game.
  • Maybe a mention of Barney merchandise, and the video game screenshot can be used there?

Juggaleaux 12:13, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

There's List of Barney & Friends episodes and videos. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

I agree with the merge proposal. The show is called Barney & Friends, it would make sense to merge the articles about the friends. Anthopos 21:38, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I proposed a merge on the Barney discussion page, because that page is nearly identical in content to this one and even the vandalism is frequently duplicated between the two entries. I just have no idea how to formally propose or begin the procedure for getting a merge of the two articles. 24.218.222.86 15:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

No it was a disambiguation page but someone turned it into a article. I'll find the correct version and restore it to a disambiguation. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:59, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
If you look at User talk:AmiDaniel/VP/Bugs#Barney & Barney & Friends you can see what happened. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interogation

this sounds questionable, can someone provide a news-link for this claim:

"After the Iraq war of 2003, American interrogators reportedly used Barney's theme song, "I Love You," to break the resistance of high-ranking Iraqi captives, playing the tune over and over to disorient and demoralize the prisoners."

i read the link article, and it says that "i love you" was used to train american operatives not to torure iraqis...

quote from article:

"Trust me, it works," a US "operative" told Newsweek magazine.

"In training, they forced me to listen to the Barney I Love You song for 45 minutes. I never want to go through that again."

the article talks about use of Heavy Metal, not Barney to break will of the prisoners.

--Hq3473 06:06, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)


[edit] inhumane

I read that Barney's music was played repetitively for Iraqi captives as part of "Stress and Duress" interrogation. True, or urban myth? Certainly inhumane.... -- Someone else 23:23 21 May 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Who plays the Barney character in the Children's Show?

[edit] To be edited in...

Bob West .... Barney (voice) Julie Johnson .... Baby Bop (voice) Patty Wirtz .... B.J. (voice) Brice Armstrong .... Miss Etta Kette (voice) Todd Duffey .... Scooter McNutty (voice) Jeff Ayers .... Baby Bop (costume) Jeff Ayres .... Baby Bop Jeff Brooks .... B.J.



Rickey Carter .... Derek Hope Cervantes .... Tosha Maurie A. Chandler .... Alyssa Monet A. Chandler .... Ashley (1995-1999) Phyllis Cicero .... Stella Kenny Cooper .... David Dean DeLuna .... Jesse Lucien Douglas .... Chip Sandy Duncan .... Mother Kurt Dykhuizen .... Jason Brian Eppes .... Michael Earl Fisher .... Booker T. Bookworm (voice) Georgia Foy .... Officer Phillips Jeffrey Hood .... Danny Alexander Jhin .... Adam David Joyner .... Barney Adrienne Kangas .... Linda Lauren King .... Kathy Kiwi .... Bingo Michael Krost .... Juan


Dean Wendt .... Barney (voice) Carey Stinson .... Barney (Barney's costume) Robert Sweatmon .... Mr. Boyd Gene Ray Price .... Miss Kepler Summer Selby .... Miss Crisp

[edit] I heard that...

The person who plays as barney got shot and they only show reruns. Is this true?

Not likely, since the article has multiple characters listed as that evil beast. They'd replace it as likely as anything else.

I heard that the actor died in the suit filming the movie..

Blame the human tendency to attribute hideous rumors to wholesome things. . .203.131.167.26 03:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Or perhaps blame the human tendency to attribute hideous rumors to hideous things. . .Retep412 03:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zachary Soza redirects here

Its AFD debate agreed the article should redirect here, but no merge was made because Soza is just one of many actors. If an editor thinks there may be some content retrievable, feel free to dig it up from Zachary Soza's page history. Johnleemk | Talk 11:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protect?

This article has been vandalised continuously for more than a month. The edits here mainly consists of blanking (which is vandalism) or reverting vandalism. This is one of the most vandalised pages on Wikipedia. Should we semi-protect this page, as the users who vandalise this page are anons. --Terence Ong (恭喜发财) 09:53, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Agreed. I can see how no decent contributions can be made while everyone's busy undoing vandalism. -- Ch'marr 19:00, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I disagree. The vandalism is so slow that it's not really a problem. The main vandalism comes from one or two users and I already blocked one for a week. I won't semi-protect but if someone else does I won't revert the protection either. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 19:14, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
We need it now more than ever. Since I reverted the funding vandalism, there were 19 edits, most of them were vandalism attempts by anonymous users. I'm not a big Barney fan, but I just want to make sure that "vandal anons" don't stand in our way. -- M (speak/spoken) 19:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
This time I agree. I think that it's not just this but also List of Barney & Friends episodes and videos and List of Barney & Friends stage shows. I also think that one of the anons is making what they think are good faith edits but in the long run are just vandalistic. The come in from mor than one IP and dump in a copy and past from their own computer which by now includes the "gay sex orgy" caption in the picture. Unfortunally I don't think it would be right for me to do the protection. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:18, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Why not, may I ask? -- M (speak/spoken) 23:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
In the case of this article I have semi-protected. The other two are much slower and easier to revert. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
What the...? The semi-protection is gone!! RE-PROTECT!! RE-PROTECT!! -- M (speak/spoken) 00:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree.Ollie the Magic Skater 02:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hmm…

What, nothing about how Barney is evil?

Personaly, I wouldn't be that surprised if barney turned out to be a child melester. Shadow-F0X 5/11/06

You guys are morons. Read the Wikipedia page on evil, particularly the section describing the controversy over the word's usage. Personally, I believe that "evil" is synonymous with unpopular to most people.

For the record, am I the only one with enough decency to be against Anti-Barney Humor? The Legend of Miyamoto 01:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

There are tons of people that don't think that Barney is evil, that's a matter of opinion.

If anyone ever tries to put up that this unsigned comment thing on this or above comment again, I will flame you! Do you know why? I am not a user. I know how to put comments in though.

[edit] Getting an Image for the Page

I recently wrote to HIT Entertainment asking if they could supply an image for "Barney & Friends" or "Barney" under a suitable licence. Today, I received a response indicating they could not: "Thank you for contacting us. Unfortunately, due to copyrights, images are not available.". Ah well. -- Ch'marr 18:58, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think that's going to extremes, but hey, that was a good idea. Too bad it didn't work out, although that's to be expected. Mattderojas 00:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] PBS logos

Do we really need all those pictures of the PBS logo??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.33.249.200 (talk • contribs).

I agree, what's with the sudden emphasis on PBS? Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 23:29, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Someone was trying to put them in but doing a bad job of it so I put them in for them. I must admit I don't really see how they fit so if you want take them out. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Banned in Japan

Why was this banned in Japan?

  • Maby because Barney didn't do so well in Japan.

well there is a certain site u can visit,that could help u know y it is banned in Japan.I forgot the sites name. I'd guest that the Japanese people don't find Barney and Friends attractive by their young ones.


I removed this statement
Japan: In Japan they called it "Barney y la con los con Di O" They speak Japainsse and sing
this is obviously not a Japanese title, nor a correct spanish title (although mostly spanish words)--Ccosta 01:47, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
If I remember my Spanish, this says something like 'Barney and the With the With the Di O'...*blinks* DarkMasterBob 04:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
  • It's not banned in Japan. [1] Evan1975 03:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DOES ANY1 NOW HOW LONG IT WILL LAST 4

i'm just consern in knowing how long this show will last for...

[edit] Who's Riff?

This question is for 70.19.242.190:

Barney was created in 1987 by Sheryl Leach of Dallas, Texas. She came

up with the idea for the program while considering TV shows that she felt would be educational and appeal to her son. Leach then brought together a team who created a series of home videos, Barney and the Backyard Gang, which also starred actress Sandy Duncan in the first 3 videos. Later, Barney was joined by Baby Bop and B.J. and Riff in 2006

Who's Riff? (Giant Blue Anteater removed this change) Mattderojas 02:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Good luck in getting the anon to reply. There's a whole series of edits from that range who all make similar edits and never reply to anything on their talk pages. I did add Riff back and a source for it. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or does that guy look like the baby from that old muppet show "Dinosaurs"?203.131.167.26 03:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
I was just thinking about that show. Not the Mommy!Gzuckier 18:18, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to Revert Blanking

I need to know how to revert blanking. A lot of people have been blanking this article and replacing everything with short sentences such as "Barney Is gay" Or "Barney is Retarded". Is there an easy way to restore the article without retyping the whole article section by section? --DragonBlazer57, 6:54 27 July, 2006

That's easy. See Wikipedia:Reverting. -- M (speak/spoken) 21:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I am wondering why my edit was considered vandalism. It is true that some believe he is the anti-Christ. See this: http://www.bible-prophecy.com/antichrist.htmmikey 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. If you add it back and add sources, I won't revert it, but I assumed it was vandalism because of the amount of crap this article normally gets. talk to JD wants e-mail 18:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
That's okay. I'm sure I would have if someone else added it.mikey 18:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
It got removed again by Bobo192 (talk • contribs):
“ Removed random, but highly pro internet rumour, may be more appropriately phraseable, and certainly does exist, but the easiest thing to do is to remove it. ”
-- M (speak/spoken) 12:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Would adding a section about The Barney Bunch to the page be considerd vandalsm im not trying to make Barney look gay I just think It's nesscery.Kryptohater123 13:39, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

They really have nothing to do with this article and anyway their own was deleted as non-notable. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Barney Bunch. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of songs from Barney & Friends

Does anybody else think that the Spanish listings are getting a bit out of hand. I would not expect the Spanish Wikipedia to list all the English songs and I really don't think they add anything to the list. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can someone protect this page, PLEASE?

I'm tired of seeing several edits by preteens that think its HILARIOUS to make edits like "Barney is gay" or "he rapes the kids". Seriously, grow up. We need this page protected, and protected until the end of time. Who's with me? Newspaper98 22:16, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. This is an obvious vandal target. It was protected before; I don't know why protection was removed. This is exactly the point I was getting at above. RE-PROTECT!!! RE-PROTECT!!! -- M (speak/spoken) 22:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you to whoever protected this page. Please dont ever unprotect, because they will always be people trying to edit this page with stupid comments. Newspaper98 23:59, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
I did but it will not stay protected forever. There are other articles that get much worse vandalism attacks than this one. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:18, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

The edits by Sinking Diamond were really disgusting.

"Vanalism = Ew.", said RandomOrca2

Thanks for blocking that user indefinately. Giant Blue Anteater 01:17, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

You think that's disgusting? The edits by Shadzar2 were even more disgusting.Hondasaregood 04:03, December 21, 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good Job!

Nice to block. I heard Sam_Buddy was about to vandalize. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anoii (talk • contribs).

[edit] Sega Genesis screenshot?

Why? There’s no mention of any game anywhere near the picture. The only mention is under See also. Why is it there at all? —Frungi 00:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It shouldn't be. I've removed it. Chick Bowen 04:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank's the Drew Pickles joke was on it to muchThemasterofwiki 18:46, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTF

There saying how he's a stranger that kids never met, and that it has no education. I don't know, but i'm the only one that thinks that this look like a bad acid trip.----Kingforaday1620 22:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Think of it this way. Barney teaches us to love and trust everyone. Someday a person may say "Want to go in my car for a ride and go to Chuckie Chesses" they could kidnapp them and murder them. They could also say "Want to have sex with me" since the child may not know what sex is they may not know it's bad the kid would get raped. That's why some pepole don't like barney for a real reason.Eddy643 13:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Original Research

The following was original research so I removed it.

"one particular episode made use of the phrase, "A stranger is a friend you have not met yet", which some parents may view as sending a dangerous message to their children."

"[peer pressure] encourages children to suppress outward signs of unhappiness rather than deal openly with their feelings, which has been shown to have dangerous effects on their development.'

[edit] Original Research part 2

I just removed everything uncited with a fact tag as well as one section that had a cite, but the cite had nothing to do with the statement it was supposed to be sourcing. Please find sources before adding those sections back. Right now they constitute original research without any supporting citations.--Isotope23 18:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Also, "Because of this, the show is banned from places like Japan and the Philippines" is sourced to the IMDB trivia section for the show. Anyone care to provide an actual reliable source?--Isotope23 18:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it's banned in the Philippines unless it's been banned within the last 2 years I wasn't there. As far as I know, they show Barney a lot in RPN Channel 9 (much to my dismay, seeing that I prefer Sesame Street). Sukotsuto 10:55, 09 January 2007 (PST)

That section is from IMDB, which is pretty unreliable as a source. I wouldn't object to removing it unless there is a real source for this.--Isotope23 19:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the text:
"Nemerous individuals have criticized the show, saying that everybody acts alike, and never express any unique traits [1]."
For starters this is weasel wording. The other problem is that it is sourced to the IMDB "User Comments" section which does not meet any definition of a reliable source. There needs to be better sourcing for such a statement.--Isotope23 19:16, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article is getting out of control

This article has so much content disputes and vandalism that it needs to be not just semi-protected, but fully protected. HONDASareGOOD (Talk|Contribs) 05:05, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we should just put the page on protection forever some guy keeps on reverting it back to some werid version by a vandaliser.Themasterofwiki 18:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

We don't keep articles protected indefinitely...--Isotope23 20:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Well I think this one should have a exception.Themasterofwiki 18:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question.

I recently heard of an incident that supposedly resulted in legal action against the show involving a television with an image appearing to be a demon. (It was created by someone moving in front of the screen.) I can't find anything on it myself, but I was wondering if anyone else had any information on it? My resource is just a neighbor who has lied about things before, but I always like to look things up before I call someones' bluff... If it's true, though, stuff like that should probably be in a Wiki. (KyrieSanctus 06:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC))

If it were verifiable and could be relaibly sourced... it would be. In this case though I would say your neighbor is trying to start an urban legend.--Isotope23 14:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The vandalism is bad and all, but the page is in a really bad state. The criticism section is too short, and does not link to an article or source.

Unprotect the page! You can revert the vandalism, but by locking it, you are causing more damage than the vandals. (68.40.85.31 01:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Waring Next To Anti-Barney Humor

Themasterofwiki 20:16, 16 March 2007 (UTC)They're should be a warning next to anti-barney humor!

[edit] Barney & Friends vandalism

For those unaware there is Wikipedia:Long term abuse#Disney/Barney vandal. Some extra eyes on the various episode articles would be appreciated. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Corporate Control

It would seem that the company (or owners) of Barney try to keep this page from mentioning anything TRUTHFUL of Barney. Trying to candy coat it all. If you ask anyone, the Anti-Barney Humor has become more significant than the originations of it, ie, the article in which everyone is discussing about. --68.97.75.170 04:44, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any references to back up that claim? —tregoweth (talk) 11:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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