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[edit] Philosophy

The philosophy part, unless it is all a quote, does not sound very neutral. This should be changed. Godlord2 01:59, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I came to this discussion page to see of anyone else picked up on that. It is very point-of-view. --Rachel Cakes 01:41, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hey

i love your music!!! keep up the good christian outlook!! it's great to have someone like you 3 setting a good example!! thanks,cecily ashby

This isn't the band's website. This website provives info. If you want Barlow Girl to know this, go to http://www.myspace.com/barlowgirl

[edit] "Not dating"

Hi, a question here. The article contains the phrase "the band has also taken a stand on not dating." I've heard this formulation used by US Evangelicals who have chosen to abstain from sex before marriage, but I'm curious about what exactly it means. I know that the people I know who have chosen to be abstinent before marriage do want to get married, and don't want to have someone arrange a marriage for them with a stranger, so I wonder what exactly "dating" is taken to mean in this context. Does it mean "having a one-on-one social encounter with someone with whom you have a potential romantic interest", which is how I would define it? Or does "dating" automatically imply a sexual encounter when used in this context?

On this note, there's language other language here that may be confusing to readers who are not familiar with the culture of conservative US evangelicals, such as: "Besides believing in abstinence and modesty..." "Abstinence" here pretty obviously means "abstinence from sex before marriage," but "modesty" is a bit more confusing. I'm assuming from context it means some variation of "sexual modesty" -- i.e. the women in the group do not dress or behave in such a way as to draw attention to themselves sexually. However, "modesty" of course does not necessarily have a meaning related to sexuality -- it could just mean that they don't wish to brag about or draw undue attention to themselves or their achievements. Anyway, this should all be made more clear in context.

I hope I haven't offended anyone with these questions. I just want to improve the article by using language in a way that would be accessible to everyone, not just to people who are US evangelical Chriistians. --Jfruh (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Great question. I don't have an official source, but I could point you in the right direction. I know they are big on modest dressing. Check out the lyrics [1] for their song "Clothes". Also check out their song "Average Girl" talks about not dating, that God will provide the man for them. I think their official website has a section talking about their philosophy. They just overhauled their website, so the section might have been on their old design. Definitely check out the song "Barlow Girls" by Superchic[k] too.

While your checking out the lyrics, check out "Never Alone". Voted the #2 best lyrics for any song on my local Christian rock station. I anticipate this article potentially getting quite a few hits in the near future as "Never Alone" is currently being prepared for a mainstream radio release. So please do whatever you can to make this article unbiased so that Wikipedia's mainstream audience can understand BarlowGirl. BarlowGirl will be a household name in the U.S. if the song hits mainstream radio as big as it did on Christian radio.

I hope this helps! Royalbroil 23:04, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I recorded the quote about dating, and typed in the quote word for word from the quote read on the Weekend 22. Royalbroil ^{Talk  Contrib} 03:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Modesty, in this context, is not drawing attention to themselves sexually, nor revealing themselves in a way that is improper. They are also very modest in the fact that tey do not brag about their acheivements, but rather give God all the glory. Their veiw on dating actually leans more toward courtship, where the father chooses the man that he thinks is right for you, and get to know each-other through letters, chaperoned visits with each-other, etc. this is dating to marry. They believe that God will choose the right man for them, they don't need to get their hearts broken again and again trying to choose on their own. hope this helps! User:Cocoblue 20:15, 19 January 2007 (UTC)