Talk:Barbara Piasecka Johnson

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Contents 1 Biography assessment rating comment 2 Reversion 3 Name 4 Birth year 5 Husband

[edit] Biography assessment rating comment

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[edit] Reversion

Basia Piasecka (born 1937 in Poland), was a cook and chambermaid to John Seward Johnson I, of the Johnson & Johnson family. She became Johnson's mistress, and his wife in 1971, inherting the lions-share of the Johnson & Johnson fortune upon her husband's death. She is on the Forbes 400 World's Richest People list with an estimated wealth of $2.6 billion, making her the 74th richest person on earth. She renamed her husband's estate Jasna Polana ("bright meadow" in Polish), and it is now operated as a private golf club.

which fact are you disputing? her year of birth? her maiden name? her husband's name? simple life facts dont need to be sourced, any Google search will confirm. If we have to source every fact in a bioghy it will look like this:

Basia Piasecka (1) (born 1937 (2) in Poland (3)), was a cook (4) and chambermaid (5) to John Seward Johnson I (6)

• Or are you objecting to someone editing and contributing to the article you started?
• I am reinstaing my edits unless I see facts disputing my changes.
• Please feel free to leave commenst here.

Her name, as referenced by any source, is Barbara Piasecka Johnson. Basia is ner nickname. Secondly, Johnson & Johnson is not a family, it's a company. Johnsons are a family. Thirdly, "estate" as used in this article means Johnson's assets, not his real property. Nothing wrong with the Jasna Poana info, but some citing the source would be nice. Jasna Polana is a country club, not just for golf.

Additionally, J. Seward Johnson, was always J. Seward Johnson. It was his legal name, and the name by which everybody knew him. The J. Seward Johnson article is also very weak. Taco325i 00:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

• Weak is no reason to delete something. The rule is label short biographies as a stub, if they are not already.
• If something is weak, strengthen it.
• If you want to distinguish between a birth name and a common name you mention that in that person's biography. Do not delete links to it. The version you reverted to had no wikified link at all.
• If you disagree with a single fact, don't revert, change that fact and add a reason on the discussion page or in the edit summary.

Hey relax there champ. I'm all about working with fellow wikipedians. Don't take the revert personally. As for Barbara's name, nickname alone will not suffice. Her full name is warranted. What link are you talking about?

[edit] Name

The only reference to her name being "Barbara Piasecka Johnson, Basia" is your stub in Wikipedia. The name:

• "Barbara Piasecka" has 10,300 Google hits
• "Basia Johnson" her Americanized married name has
• "Basia Piasecka" her Polish maiden name and birth name has 45 Google hits
• Wikipedia article start off with a person's birth name
• The article is indexed already under her married name and her maiden name

I understand what you're getting at, but this is an encyclopedia article. We list the full names. See, for example Madonna (entertainer) and Bill Clinton.

[edit] Birth year

Why do you delete her birth year?

I didn't realize I had done that, my mistake.

[edit] Husband

Why do you delete the link to her husbands entry?

I guess this is up for debate. I think the name should be J. Seward Johnson, Sr. Perhaps we can compromise and make it link to your article, but as ....

Additionally, the three revert rule has not been violated, as there hasn't been three reverts, and because we are modifying it each time to perfect the article. Notice that your contributions have not been rejected in its entirety. Each article is a community effort. Taco325i 01:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)