Talk:Barbara Coll
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[edit] Prod removal and editing
I removed the {{prod}} from this page. It cited "non-notable" and "advertising" as reasons for deletion. The phrase "Barbara Coll" has more than 10000 Google hits, and several of the top 10 are from notable sources. Her notability doesn't seem to be in question. The article did seem to contain some advertising. I removed or reworked the phrases that seemed POV, and I removed everything about Search engine optimization, since we already have an article about that, and it doesn't really belong in a biographical article. (I will add a link to it in the See Also section). What we're left with is a short biographical stub on Barbara Coll, which I think should meet all of Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. —PurpleRAIN 16:57, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- Thats strange, when I searched last night I only got about 50 hits, which is why I tagged the article. But now I also get 10,000+ hits on Google. Ah well. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 22:06, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Advertising
I don't see why this article needs to list all past speaking engagements. I am also concerned about some of the gushing adjectives. Please rewrite this as a proper encyclopedia article with a neutral point of view. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 01:46, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- I went ahead and fixed up the article. The list of speaking engagements, and the minor awards read like an advertisement, so I've boldly deleted them. Awards are good, but the ones listed seemed unimportant. If you disagree, let's discuss. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 01:53, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
I am still new to editing Wikipedia, so I must apologize for mistakes (I thought I had rectified them). About a month ago I heard Barbara Coll speak at Google’s headquarters about SEO and was astounded that she was not listed here (being an encyclopedia). I tried to establish a page, but my “newness” and excitement were reflected in the article. Fortunately, an observant administrator helped me understand Wikipedia better and to my understanding the “gushing” was removed and I am still in the process of improving and adding to the article based on his advice.
To this end, I included citations from reliable sources, Business Week and New York Times and am puzzled why you would delete them and suggest (in the Barbara Coll talk page) to include blogs and forums. I am fairly certain that according to Wikipedia they are generally not acceptable sources. Please clarify. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources
My understanding of encyclopedias is they “Cover all branches of knowledge or all aspects of one subject” (Webster’s) and as such, this is what I was in the process of doing. The awards and list of prior speaking engagements is part of that process; as well as the “proof” I suppose that she is a well known speaker and has been for some time. There is still much I wish to add to ensure this fits the encyclopedia model.
As for the gushing adjectives, they were promptly removed weeks ago, so I am not sure to what you are referring. Again, could you please explain?
Your edit has confused me as your recommendations appear contrary to Wikipedia’s own guidelines. I look forward to your response.
LidDavis 08:35, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
