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Contents 1 The Four Phases 2 Error? 3 Requested move 3.1 Survey 3.2 Discussion

[edit] The Four Phases

I haven't read the whole article, but I have to say, I feel there may be just a tad bit of bias here...

"The Pakistani Army was in a dreadful condition and gradually lost the will to fight because most of their major fortresses had fallen to the allied Bengali-Indian forces. It was a matter of shame for the Pakistani High Command that a well-trained army was losing the war to the common Bengali civilians, who were barely trained and had outdated weapons. To conceal this shameful matter they launched an air attack near the Indian border on December 3 so that the real facts would remain unknown to the common people and people would say that Pakistani Army did not lose to the Mukti Bahini but to more powerful Indian armies. This led India to announce war against Pakistan officially and they started attacking near the Pakistan-India border from the 6th of December. All-out war between Bangladesh-India and Pakistan began. The agility and strategy of the Mukti Bahini, aided by Indian forces, overwhelmed the Pakistani forces and within 10 days of India's joiníng the war, the Pakistani Army was compelled to an unconditional surrender on December 16, 1971."

The phrasing is pretty slanted. The "shameful act?" "So that the real facts would remain unknown to the common people." This needs to be cleaned up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tyrannischgott (talk • contribs) 01:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. How about this?

The Pakistani Army was in a dreadful condition and gradually lost the will to fight because most of their major fortresses had fallen to the allied Bengali-Indian forces.^{[citation needed]} It launched an air attack near the Indian border on December 3. This led India to announce war against Pakistan officially and they started attacking near the Pakistan-India border from the 6th of December. All-out war between Bangladesh-India and Pakistan began. The Pakistani Army was soon defeated at many fronts and was compelled to an unconditional surrender to Mitra Bahini on December 16, 1971.

--Ragib 01:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Error?

The article says that all of West Pakistan was one provence, but earlier makes references to four provences of West Pakistan. "West Pakistan (consisting of four provinces: Punjab, Sindh, Balochistan and North-West Frontier Province)" verses "the West Pakistani establishment came up with the "One Unit" scheme, where all of West Pakistan was considered one province." Which is correct? 18.51.0.194 14:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

This has to do with electoral units ... the West Pakistani areas were combined to form a separate lower house of the parliament (at least that's my impression from the 1970 election results). --Ragib 18:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Bangladesh Liberation War → Bangladesh War of Independence – "Bangladesh War of Independence" is a popular name, used in both journalistic and academic articles as well as in books. It does not carry the non neutral point of view that is implicit in the name "Bangladesh Liberation War". --Philip Baird Shearer 18:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" or other opinion in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Oppose: "Bangladesh Liberation War" is the official name used by Bangladesh. The name is also used widely in India, and elsewhere. How do you measure popularity? How do you ensure that "Bangladesh War of Independence" is more popular? The ghit stats often quoted is close enough and not conclusive. --Ragib 18:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose: the official name used by the BD government should probably be used on wiki.Bakaman 23:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

  But do you consinder it to be a NPOV term? --Philip Baird Shearer 12:06, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Add any additional comments

For an earlier discussion on the name of the article see Bangladesh War (2) --Philip Baird Shearer 11:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

There was no consensus on the move and nomenclature. --Ragib 14:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Of those that expressed an opinion you were the only one against it. --Philip Baird Shearer 17:52, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, you haven't been able to support your arguments ... the numeric ghits argument isn't conclusive at all. --Ragib 17:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

My main argument is that "Bangladesh War of Independence" does not carry the non neutral point of view that is implicit in the name "Bangladesh Liberation War" and as it is also a popular name it should be used in place of the current name. --Philip Baird Shearer 18:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)