Talk:Bandarban District

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[edit] The Tourism Entry

The tourism part of this page has been edited for content that felt like endorsement or advertising. But, in reality, all the information that were imparted in that part was meant to be helpful for anyone who wanted to visit Bandarban. No tourism information is complete or useful without proper names and value attribution (check any of the lonely planet books, the best of tourist information books available). And, I really don't think that calling Einstein a great physicist is "advertisement or endorsement", even Encyclopaedia Britannica does that.

Please, discuss before you make drastic decisions on the entry. I have taken a trip to Bandarban myself to verify every information possible on hand and talked to hundreds of people. I hope original research on topics poorly reaserched is not discouraged here. Thank you all, and especailly Ragib, to take the time and trouble to improve the entry. (Aditya Kabir 14:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC))


Aditya, I appreciate the great work you did to singlehandedly lift this article to the nice state it is now. I'm even thinking of going for a featured article status some time in future. I also agree that your intentions were clear and in good faith to make the article better.
Now, here is the thing, there is a difference between an encyclopedic article's handling of tourism versus a writeup for a magazine or tourist guide. You can take the example of Kolkata and the related page Places_of_interest_in_Kolkata. You can mention notable places, but to pick hotel A over hotel B is ok for a guide but not ok for an encyclopedia.
For the transport section, you cannot say that a particular service A is preferable. That's an opinion, right? You can say that these services A, B etc are available. But to say this A is preferable over B would mean you are judging them ... the question is "according to who?" So, I removed the names of the preferred bus services.
The other paragraph I somewhat pruned is the hotels section. The same thing goes here, you cannot put "this hotel is the best" in an encyclopedic entry ... questions like "according to who? based on what?" would arise. I think I might have pruned too much there, i.e. it would have been ok to have the hotel names without commenting on their notability. But again you cannot put qualitative judgement of things/organisations there.
I hope my point is clear, I do appreciate your great effort, and I just took some more cleanup steps to make this article NPOV. Having NPOV is one of the most important things for any article. Please keep up your great work of improving the page. Thanks. --Ragib 18:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. I wish I recieved it earlier, and I wish I understood the "policies and guidelines" better. Anyways, appropriate changes are on the way. (Aditya Kabir 15:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] From peer review

Please, check out the Bandarban District article and make suggestions. It would be even more helpful if someone lent a hand at making it better. - Aditya Kabir 17:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey people, how do I get others to review this article? No takers? PLEASE!!! - Aditya Kabir 11:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

  • There is little room for expansion -- transport, culture, flora and fauna, education etc. Although this district is not in India, some of the guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian districts might be useful. utcursch | talk 13:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, AZ t 21:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bandarban District

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[edit] Highest Peak?

On the Geography of Bangladesh page and Keokradong page it states that neither Keogradong nor "Tazing Dong (sometimes spelled as Tahjingdong, and also known as Bijoy)" are the highets points of Bangladesh, so I removed it. Omishark 14:36, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Removal, instead of rewriting when you knew the appropriate was very improper, and showed a lack of respect for other editors. I put the stuff back in with appropriate corrections. Aditya Kabir 03:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Appologies, thanks for correcting it. Omishark 04:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
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