User talk:Balu2000

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Please stop adding Egyptians to your list of "Arabized Arabs" it's disputed, and stop blanket reverting my edits. You should be aware of 3RR Egyegy 07:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

No, you are incorrect in assuming that "most" Egyptians consider themselves Arabs. It's hard to say how many do and how many don't, but the point is that many do not, so stop adding them. There is a disclaimer in the article that many Egyptians don't consider themselves Arab. Egyegy 07:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Blanking your own Talk page

You should know that you are not allowed to blank your own talk page of other people's comments unless it is vandalism. Al-Andalus 13:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arab

What is the relevance of "Whiteness" for an ethnic group which is not defined by race? There are everything from Afro-Arabs to "White" Arabs, and they are not specific to any given Arab country. Whiteness in itself is a subjective topic, and has no precise definition, and more often that not actually excludes all Middle Easterners (Turks, Arabs, Berbers, etc.) "white-looking" or otherwise.

Your Whiteness addition doesn't actually improve or add anything to the Arab article itself, so I would plead with you to reconsider the worth of its inclusion. Perhaps you should take it to the White people article, though I can tell you now, you will have to recognise from the get go that Whiteness has no precise agree-upon worldwide definition.

As a side note, having just updated the Palestinians article, I can tell you that many Arab population have substantial sub-Saharan genetic admixture, rangin from 4%, to 10-15%, and as high as 35% of lineages. Al-Andalus 13:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Given your reply to my message, I can only assume that you are reverting to an edit that you yourself are unaware of its exact content. Perhaps you should read the version that you keep reverting to, and you'll see the parts which are mentioned as points of concern.
What exactly is it that you want to add to the article? And why must you revert every other contributor's contribution just to add something? If there is no vandalism, and a revert is not actually needed, then just ADD your content to the current edition instead of reverting everything, because you're also reverting everyone else's updates. Al-Andalus 14:00, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I actually agree with you. But you have to make sure that you don't insert your own POV. And make sure you don't insert things that are irrelevant to the article, like the "Whiteness" content which you say you were actually unaware off because you didn't read the edition of the article you were reverting to. Just read the current article, and add stuff without reverting, unless there is vandalism. Al-Andalus 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
You are not just changing the info box. This are the massive differences

made during your third and latest revert.

You will notice it no longer says:

An Arab (Arabic: عرب ‎; transliteration: ʻarab) is a member of a Semitic group of people whose cultural, linguistic, and in certain cases, ancestral origins trace back to the tribes of the Arabian Peninsula. The Arabic language and culture began spreading throughout the Middle East as early as the 2nd century with ethnically Arab Christians such as the Ghassanids and even earlier ethnically Arab Jewish tribes. Widespread proliferation throughout the Middle East and North Africa, however, did not start until after the 7th century following the advent of Islam and Arab Muslim Expanisionism resulting in the cultural assimilation of other indigenous Semitic peoples of non-Arabian origin, most often, but not necessarily, in combination with their Islamization. Islamized but non-Arabized peoples are distinguished as forming part of the Muslim World, not the Arab World. Many other varying views of the definition of Arab have also been offered.[1]

But says in your revert again says:

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, an Arab (Arabic: عرب ‎; transliteration: ʻarab) is a member of a Noble people inhabiting Most of the Middle East whose language and Islamic religion spread widely throughout the World from the seventh century.[2] However, Arabs can be considered part of the white ethnic group [1] and many varying views of the definition have been offered.

As well as all the other changes further down in the page. Al-Andalus 14:30, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Signing posts

Please always sign your posts so people know who has sent them, and we don't have to waste time in the history page trying to figure out who typed what. Al-Andalus 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arab

Do you have any sources supporting your figures about Arabized Arab and Ethnic Arabs? Your figures are totally wrong and should be removed. How did you know that 1,300,000 Syrian are Ethnically Arabs, Syria is 90% Arab. Moreover Iraq how did you know that only 4,600,000 Iraqis are Ethnically Arabs. you wrote (predominantly Sunni Muslims),where as 75% of Iraqis are considered as Arabs, and many Arab tribes inhabited Iraq and Syria even before Islam. The table which you created is totally wrong. If you don't support your figures by official or reliable sources I will remove them in the next few days. Thanks--Aziz1005 00:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Arab

may i ask why you changed the image? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Admiin0o (talk • contribs).

  1. What if i asked you the same question back? I'll answer you after you answer me.
  2. Why don't you use the article talk page to discuss your changes w/ other contributors?
  3. Your username is against the wikipedia policy (see WP:USERNAME). -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 18:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
the image i posted for the Arab article matches with the infobox ethnic group template like most other ethnic groups article. I did just ask you why you removed the picutre nor did i remove it or improve it . thank you very much —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Admiin0o (talk • contribs) 20:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
I changed the pic back as we had a discussion about the pic to be posted there before. Please refer to Images of Arab people?. That is why i wondered why you haven't used the talk page to discuss it. Anyway, it is not a big deal and hope my reply didn't bother you. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 15:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] My concern about your username (Admiin0o)

Hello, Admiin0o, and thank you for contributing to Wikipedia!

I hope not to seem unfriendly or make you feel unwelcome, but I noticed your username, and am concerned that it might not meet Wikipedia's username policy. After you look over that policy, could we discuss that concern here?

Please note that your username implies a wikipedia official role. You can request to change it at Wikipedia:Changing username.

I'd appreciate learning your own views, for instance your reasons for wanting this particular name, and what alternative username you might accept that avoids raising this concern.

You have several options freely available to you:

  • If you can relieve my concern through discussing it here, I can stop worrying about it.
  • If the two of us can't agree here, we can ask for help through Wikipedia's dispute resolution process, such as asking for a "third opinion", or requesting comments from other Wikipedians. Admins usually abide by agreements reached through this process.
  • If you decide to just go ahead and change your username, it is possible for you to keep your present contributions history under the new username: simply request a new name here following the guidelines on that page, rather than creating a whole new account.

Let me reassure you that my writing here means I don't think your username is grossly, blatantly, or obviously inappropriate; such names get reported straight to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV), or blocked on sight. This is more a case where opinions might differ, and it would be good to reach some consensus — either here or at WP:RFC/NAME. So I look forward to a friendly discussion, and to enjoying your continued participation on Wikipedia. Thank you again! FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 18:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC) -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 18:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New

I am kinda new at Wikipedia so i look forward to get help from another users and guidance.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Admiin0o (talk • contribs).

I will be happy to help you. Just approach me anytime you need help as i am an admin. But please, the first thing to do is to take action re your username as i explained to you above. We have a policy on that matter and what you have to do is simply request a username change at Wikipedia:Changing username. The policy states the following:
Usernames that imply an official role or a position with access to additional tools not available to a standard user, such as "Administrator", "Admin", "System operator", "Sysop", "Moderator", "Steward", "Bureaucrat", or "Developer". - (source: Inappropriate usernames). Happy editing. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 15:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Good job Balu2000. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up ® 13:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arab again

Please do not add unverified edits. Are you Arab? Or Can you speak Arabic? .The categories that you have put on the Arab article are Not accurate. Please discuss your edits on the talk page before editing. I keep saying again why don't you give sources. It is fact that Syria, Iraq, Jordan , Lebanon and other Arabic countries are Arab (Arabic was invented in what is called in modern day Jordan, Syria and Saudi ).If we want to categories Arabs into ethnic Arabs and culture Arabs why did you put all Saudi population as Arabs (as an example). In fact modern Saudi people are mixed with Black Africans and Indians!! So it is really hard to say who is ethnically Arab and who is culture Arab. We should only mention offical censuses. Syria is 90% Arabs; Iraq is about 75% Arabs ...etc .Read about Ghassaned, Lakhmid, Nabatean, Umayyad, Abbasid, and Fatimied...Etc; Arabs in Syria are not only Bedouins. So far you seem a bit ignorant in Arabs history (Sorry) therefore you are not in a place where you can decide who is an ethnic Arab and who is a culture Arab--Aziz1005 22:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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