Talk:Baldwin Street, Dunedin

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  • How about we use a different photo? I think it better depicts the steepness of the street. I might be biased though, because I took that photo myself. Or should we maybe include both photos? Please do give your comments. If no one comments in two weeks, I will do the replacement (or addition). --Yogi de 19:19, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • I think that the two photos are basically the same, just different angles of holding the camera. The current photo, however doesn't have a hedge blocking the view of the house.
Whoops, mjm1964 (first time edited a talk page).
  • I changed the indentation of your comment. Use four tildes (~) to sign your article with your name and a timestamp. Regarding the photo: I think the hedge helps making the photo look more extreme, and determining where "up" is. Still, I agree the difference is not that big. --Yogi de 22:23, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
While it is an interesting photo, it's kind of confusing to tell how steep the street is. The one on the current page is much less confusing, and you can see straight away the street is very steep. RAINERtalk 10:54, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Alleged death of Ana Louise North

A google search for Ana Louise North Dunedin didn't bring up any decent results (e.g. respected news pages), only two somewhat obscure lists of alleged accidents. I believe this to be Urban Legend, unless someone comes up with better evidence. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to spread urban legends. If no evidence comes up, I will remove the passage from the article. -- Yogi de 00:57, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

While I agree with the sentiment mostly and I'm strongly supportive of the need for referencing, and this is a bit irrelevant now that a reference has been found, even without a reference, IMHO this should have remained even if one did not come up (but with a citation needed in the text). Given that this was a fairly recent event it is still fresh on the memories of many New Zealanders and given the size of New Zealand it was widely reported in reputable local media. I suspect asking on the Project NZ would have obtained widespread consensus that the event did happen and was reported in reputable local media. Although this does not remove the need for a citation, given we are talking about an factual event (rather then an disputed opinion or quote) IMHO it would have been enough to leave it in until a citation could be found. Nil Einne 03:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I concur, was widely reported and talked about her in NZ. Not folklore at all. Sad though that it isn't. Students where I lived in Auckland used to do the same with Whitaker Place (a very steep street, though not quite as steep as Baldwin) Mathmo Talk 08:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice about having a signature. Here is a link to a newspapers website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,445106,00.html Mjm1964 02:36, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] High Street, White Rock, British Columbia

I would not be suprised if this surpasses the steepness of Baldwin Street. It goes up the side of a steep ravine and must be at least 30% gradient. It is barely walkable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.81.47.153 (talk • contribs) .

Looking at this map, High St does look fairly steep (although apparently not in the same league as Baldwin St), gaining about 100 ft of elevation in a horizontal distance of roughly 500 ft, for a gradient of 1:5 or 11°. (High St is the street running from the coast up towards the W in White Rock on this map; see also Google Maps.) No doubt it's steeper than this in parts. Does anyone have any better information? -- Avenue 09:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canton Street, Pittsburgh, PA

According to this news story, Canton Street in the neighborhood of Beechview has a grade of 37%, even steeper than Baldwin Street.

It does seem like it might be steeper, but the article calls it a "byway" and a "pathway". Baldwin St is a very real "street". It has upward of 50 houses, with continuous housing through the steepest stretch. Also, as an effective dead-end, it's not just a 2 way street, but the street that its residents use daily. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Limegreen (talkcontribs) .
The Post-Gazette article also says that just two families live on the steep portion, which bolsters Limegreen's argument. But perhaps it's worth mentioning in our article, with some discussion of what is meant by a "street". Regarding the name, the article calls it Canton Street in one place, but Canton Avenue in another. Google Maps thinks it's Canton Avenue.[1]. -- Avenue 03:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

It's Canton Avenue. The photo caption is wrong. I think they were calling it a 'byway' just as artistic license. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.1.1.33 (talkcontribs) .

It isn't entirely clear that folks drive on the steep part of the street, even in the summer:
  • The bottom half is so steep, you're not supposed to drive down it any time of the year,...
But elsewhere it implies that residents do use it in the summer.
  • The two families who live on the sheer stretch know to park down on Coast when it snows and walk up the steps that are Canton's sidewalk.
Maybe we should have an article like List of steepest streets to evaluate these claims. -Will Beback 20:06, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm obivously chiming in on this a little late, but as a Pittsburgh resident and cyclist, I can assure you that Canton Avenue is most definitely a real street, and it's almost as long as Baldwin Street (this article says Baldwin is 200m). There are more than 2 houses on it, as well, although perhaps only 2 use it as their mailing address. Every year in Pittsburgh there is the "dirty dozen" bike race up Pittsburgh's 13 (a baker's dozen) steepest hills, including Canton. So, while no action seems to have been taken after this discussion, looking at the history of the article, I'm going to add a note about Canton Ave wit a link to the PG article. catParade 07:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Manizales Colombia

There are much stepper streets in Manizales, Caldas, Colombia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.24.53.61 (talk • contribs) .

Can you provide some details? -- Avenue 23:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)