Talk:Badges of the United States Air Force

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Contents 1 Distinguished Shot badge 2 Anon user reverts 3 Page Formating 4 This paragraph doesn't make sense:

[edit] Distinguished Shot badge

The USAF has Distinguished Shot badges just like the Army. So I'm adding it to the list. Someone go change the Distinguished Shot Badge article to reflect both the Army and Air Force. Jigen III 13:51, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon user reverts

I have reverted several times an anon user who is removing the link to the main badges page (Military badges of the United States) and further statting that military badges are not considered decorations by the military. I must dispute this for the following reason:

• Badges are very often mentioned in the "Awards and decorations" section on a DD Form 214
• All military badges are recognized as military awards by the National Personnel Records Center
• Personal applying for replacement badges must write to the awards office of Randolph Air Force Base

I dont know how to say it any more plainly than that. -Husnock 04:46, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

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• The fact that people filling out DD Form 214 often include badges in the "Awards and Decorations" Section does not prove that badges are decorations. They could be awards, people could be filling the form out incorrect, or the form could be incorrect.

• The fact that badges are recognized as awards also does not prove that they are decorations.

• Huh? So?

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_decoration does not include badges in its definition

A military decoration is a decoration given to military personnel or units for heroism in battle or distinguished service. They are designed to be worn on military uniform.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_military specifically mentions badges as being distinct from decorations

Awards and decorations of the United States military are military decorations which recognize a service member's service and personal accomplishments while a member of the United States armed forces. Together with military badges, such awards are a means to outwardly display the highlights of a service member's career.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_and_decorations_of_the_United_States_Air_Force does not include any reference to badges

Awards and decorations of the United States Air Force are military decorations which are issued by the Department of the Air Force to Air Force service members and members of other military branches serving under Air Force commands. Of all five branches of the United States armed forces, the Air Force currently maintains the highest number of active awards and decorations.

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_badges_of_the_United_States specifically differentiates badges from decorations

Military badges of the United States are devices of personal recognition that are granted to service members of the United States armed forces to denote personal accomplishment, qualifications, and participation in designated military campaigns or other activities. Personal recognition is granted to service members by a number of awards and decorations. Together with military decorations, such badges are displayed outwardly on military uniforms.

• US Code Title 32, Chapter V Section 578.1 defines decorations

(a) Military decorations are awarded on a restricted individual basis in recognition of and as a reward for heroic, extraordinary, outstanding, and meritorious acts, achievements, and services; and such visible evidence of recognition is cherished by recipients. Decorations are primarily intended to recognize acts, achievements, and services in time of war. -postesd by anon user 11/15/05

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I changed the word "decorations" to "awards" since by your own definition, awards and decorations are separate. It also rather funny that the articles you give as "evidence" were mostly written...BY ME!. -Husnock 00:52, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page Formating

Does anyone want to take a swing at getting the top of the Aviation and Medical Service section to be even with each other? I've tried afew different ways but they tend to only working in one browser or the other. --Darkstar949 17:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This paragraph doesn't make sense:

The Air Force is the most restrictive service with regards to which Air Force badges may be worn on the uniforms of other United States armed forces branches. With the exception of aviation badges, most U.S. Air Force badges may only be displayed on United States Air Force uniforms.

It's not the Air Force that's restrictive, it's the other services. For example, the Army hardly allows any Air Force badges, since most of them are given out for merely being in a certain job. How could this paragraph be rewritten to reflect this? Nathanm mn 15:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)