Talk:Ayumi Hamasaki discography

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[edit] Templates

I have created two templates, Template:Ayumi Hamasaki albums and Template:Ayumi Hamasaki singles. To add them to new albums or singles, add {{Ayumi Hamasaki albums}} for new albums, and {{Ayumi Hamasaki singles}} for singles. I don't like a unique one for both albums and singles, because they become too long rather fast. Feel free to work with them as you wish, and if you have critics about them, please use the Talk page for each of them. -- ReyBrujo 04:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] a song is born

Is anyone ever going to add it? -- chsf 00:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

The images here are serving a decorative purpose, and should be removed. See both lists at Mariah Carey discography to realize it is not necessary to have decorative images (which are not covered by the Fair use policy, 8th point). -- ReyBrujo 06:41, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RIAJ Certifications

Just so you people know, Platinum is 250,000. So that means an album with 750 000 sales is "3x platinum". HOWEVER, the next certification on the list is "Million". Evidently, that goes for albums that sell 1 000 000 copies. Therefore, an album that sold 3 000 000 would be "3x Million" and NOT "11x platinum". This is because it is given the certification of the next level. You wouldn't call a 800 000 selling album "8x gold", it would be "3x platinum", and this cycle continues with "million". This official RIAJ page proves my point: http://www.riaj.or.jp/data/others/gold/index.html ... Please follow the guidelines of that page. If you would like me to translate anything from it into English I'd be more than happy. Thanks alot! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Evolution7931 (talkcontribs) .

Thanks for the information! -- ReyBrujo 01:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Asia" sales

Before adding "Asia" sales, cite your sources. I thought you couldn't find out Asia Sales and you could only find how high it was on the chart >_> X2RADialbomber 04:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

1,000,876 (HongKong)? that's impossible >< User:?? 20:09, January 7 2007 (UTC)

I added I am... Singapore sales but I don't know if the source is valid for wikipedia :S User:Slowmoth 12:49, 11 February 2007 (GMT)

[edit] Why the remix albums and singles are not the same style as the albums one?

There is some rule about the tables? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Slowmoth (talkcontribs) 03:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] alternate covers

I think there should be a another row or column showing the CD+DVD covers. All of her recent work and her upcoming work have at least 2 covers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.107.121.202 (talk) 01:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC).

I don't think that is needed. There is a reason why there is a seperate page for the album/single. The main cover is the enough. Icaazn614 03:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

I have fixed the capitalization in this article. Please remember that our trademark guidelines state we should use proper capitalization instead of uppercase, even if the trademark is in uppercase. -- ReyBrujo 18:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Covers

How are the covers not related to the article? Every other Discography of Singers on the English Wikipedia uses Covers to show the different albums/singles of an artist. Can the user who took the covers away please explain this further? X2RADialbomber 06:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Showing the album cover in a simple list of albums is considered decorative, which goes against our Fair use criteria point 8. Ideally, discographies should not have images, only the articles about the singles or albums themselves (and only when they discuss the content of the cover only). Those that do have covers are going to be removed sooner or later. -- ReyBrujo 13:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I understand. I'd have to say that if it's against the rules, I'll make sure that no one adds the images again, yet I know a lot of people will try to add the images again. The only reason I'd say to keep the covers is because people wanting to buy these CD's might want to see the Cover Art before purchasing to make sure they do not buy bootlegs. Although that is the case, if they really wanted to purchase the album/single, I think they'd look into the main article of the album/single. X2RADialbomber 06:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
They can always check the articles about the albums. I have a similar problem with capitalization; as you can imagine everybody uses the trademark (say, "SECRET" instead of "Secret") and I spent most of my time reverting these name changes. I take my time to explain the changes, yet they continue doing so. Wikipedia has its own set of rules, which indicate we should use fair use images only when absolutely necessary. Having them here can be considered decoration only. -- ReyBrujo 06:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Don't worry, I, along with other users, are online regularly to revert changes again. If people keep changing things, maybe we'll just have to protect the article. X2RADialbomber 07:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The purpose of this article is to list the discs produced by the artist, along with some summary data. The individual articles are where you can discuss, in detail, all aspects of the records, and where the cover is of some relevance. Our use of unfree media must be minimal, and we can list albums without using cover art. ed g2stalk 19:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

My contributions as an anonymous poster are probably of no consequnce to most hardcore Wiki users, but do album covers really have to go? Pure lists of texts are almost textbook-like in their clinicalness, and remove a lot of the enjoyment of browsing discography pages, especially those artists where a lot of thought clearly went into the design( Pink Floyd espcially). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.231.37.93 (talk • contribs).
The contributions of every user are useful! In order to qualify for our fair use exemption, the cover must be discussed or explained. In most discographies, they are only shown along with the title and a few other facts that have nothing to do with the cover, as a decoration to get a list that is not so plain. It is not different from putting images of actors in a list of British actors that only contain name and age. The idea is to give here just enough information to make the list useful for what it is (a chronological list of albums and singles), no more. -- ReyBrujo 02:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)