Talk:Ayllu

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Hi My name is Ale Fernandez. My grandmother on my father's side was an Aymara, from Putre - or maybe Codpa - in the only Aymara bit of Chile. I have read about the aymara although don't profess to know my history in all this detail, but the Allyu was an active system in the Aymara kingdoms - which was before the Incas. I don't mean to go against any Quechua people or those with similar origin - It was a great system and one I hope we can come back to in some way - even just cos it sounds so idyllic!

So what I'm saying is let's try and be more precise - if anyone is up for it I'd like to try and research this topic and try and get some better facts. To me the Ayllu is fascinating - a building block that is a nation in itself. I'm involved with housing cooperatives and communities both at work and in my daily life and I really want to find out my heritage if it can help us build alternative communities that can have a lasting social and ecological impact. Then again it might be something really simple and mundane. Oh well...

http://www.telser.com.pe/assen/ayllu1.htm an okay resource. "Como ya se menciono el origen del ayllu es anterior a la época Inca, ya que es un grupo familiar, antes que la relación con la tierra" - looks like the incas just turned it into a form of control: they made it endogamic and put in a tax. "...pero con el advenimiento del Imperio, el ayllu local se vigoriza, desapareciendo otras uniones superiores o permaneciendo como enlace. Donde no hubo ayllu los incas lo crearon". There are lots of books and possibly lots of research papers on this kind of thing. skoria at gmail by the way.