Talk:Axis of good

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What is wrong with "undermine"? Chavez's goals include the formation of multi-national agreements which provide alternate economic, military, etc. agreements that exclude the US and emphasize its opponents. Whether this is good or bad is irrelevant; it is an attempt to "undermine" in any valid sense of the word. The protestation is silly. --TJive 00:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Beyond just the opposition in the White House (i.e. The Bush administration) you can see opposition in the State Department bureaucracy, several law enforcement bureaucracies such as the DEA and FBI, and there are several Congressional opponents of the Latin American leftward turn. It would be overly narrow to describe it solely as the Bush administration.—thames 00:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)