Talk:Australian Fellowship of Evangelical Students

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[edit] Merge Campus Bible Study here

Appears to be part of AFES Paul foord 07:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose - the AFES is the umbrella body of CBS. (JROBBO 03:52, 20 September 2006 (UTC))
• Oppose - CBS is not even part of AFES. The AFES group at UNSW is Christian Union. CBS is run out of the Anglican chaplaincy, CU is run by students under CASOC. Journeyman 14:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

If it is not even a part of AFES, it would seem to me to be just a university club or society, and thus, not sufficiently notable to warrant its own article. Judging by the current CBS article, it would appear to be present at only one university, UNSW. I'd like to list that article (Campus Bible Study) for deletion, unless experts can supply some evidence of notability? --Sumple (Talk) 03:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Whoah! hold your horses there. CBS is highly notable. As the article states it has been the starting point for a number of different innovations in student ministry. The Ministry Training Strategy began with 1 or 2 people at UNSW and has now spread around the world. MTS has been responsible for many, many people deciding to go into full-time Christrinan ministry. Matthias Media which has distributors in the UK, USA and South Africa grew out of Phillip Jensen's work with CBS and St Matthias. Much of the early material published by MattMedia was developed for &/or tested on the campus by CBS members. Many former members of CBS are now serving as missionaries and clergy across the globe. CBS is one of the largest evangelical student groups in Australia. I would venture that you can't tell the story of campus ministry in Australia without articles on CBS, SUEU, etc. Journeyman 05:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps you can add the international connections into the article? From my (lay) point of view, the CBS and other related articles need a little bit more explanation to make things clearer for people not familiar with the evangelical context. For example, the MTS article (albeit a stub) contains basically just one promotional quote, which really doesn't tell much of how important or influential it may be. It's a bit like if the Woolworths Limited article just said

"Woolworths Limited is a public company in Australia. From its website: "Woolworths - the Fresh Food People"" --Sumple (Talk) 06:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I haven't been to the MTS page for a very long time. Not much has changed. Journeyman 06:59, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to call this debate closed with the outcome of no merge. Journeyman 00:03, 4 October 2006 (UTC)