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[edit] GGS, GGS Chapel etc

Sorry, not interested any more - you'll have to get someone else to help. Be very very careful to read what admins say - cheers SatuSuro 10:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

If you need to commiunicate with barnsey would do it on his talk page and not mine _- I am sorry I am no longer interested in what is happening with those articles, thanks SatuSuro 10:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Ok, lets go with what SatoSura or whateva his name is said. Lets forget the differences, and make as little reference in comparing the AC and GGS articles, its just stupid, and wasting wiki time, ok?

You are doing a good job with the GGS page, and im willing to work with you on developing the GGS (senior) page, because it is part of the PSA, im also interested in working with you on a JSHAA page? what do you think? Smbarnzy 10:30, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JSHAA Page

I have nothing, i know very little about the organisation, but i think that it is an important sub-topic in the GGS and AC pages...so i want to support it alot. where can we start? Smbarnzy 10:41, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, ive started the page at Junior School Heads Association of Australia, it is pretty basic and will need alot of work from us. Smbarnzy 10:49, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Yep, that infobox sounds great, ive saved the page, it is a stub atm. Smbarnzy 10:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok, ill leave the page for a good 20 mins ok? ill look at some new info, im looking largely at a History section for the article, start of small and grow. Smbarnzy 11:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing

If you are going to reference a web page multiple times, do this:

once you have done that, the next time you want to reference that same thing, you type, [1]

and thats all you have to do. Smbarnzy 11:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Click on edit, and you will see the text, and what im saying, its like screwed up when you look at the page regularly. Smbarnzy 11:19, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Auroranorth 11:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] JSHAA Article

The top of the article has a massive gap, do u know how to fix it? Smbarnzy 11:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Your doing great work on the article, ill be back on 2morow, too tired atm, good working with you =) Smbarnzy 12:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC) lets get it to B Class by Saturday :) Smbarnzy 12:20, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
The president image - make sure it isnt copyrighted - coz thats just crap to deal with (GFDL is so easy - if you have one then use that), maybe put it into the WA section and have it on the right - but make sure you have a caption under it so it doesnt look completely stupid. Smbarnzy 11:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, we should go to peer-review before GA nom. definately. We need to get third-party references (outside the JSHAA webpage), include all states, the organisations role in govt, school sports etc etc, extend history a bit, include all other relevant information. Before we go to peer-review we should get admins/experienced editors to look at the article, so we know where we are going.
  • Tomorrow, im going to add all of the relevant categories, templates, wikilinks and other such materials to the article to get all of that sorted, and.
  • Over the next week or so, we need to get all of the states information into the article (including those states that dont have a website - that will be a challenge) Smbarnzy 12:31, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
You could definately do that, email them Smbarnzy 12:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naming of daughter articles

We cannot have the daughter articles named differently! people always make an issue out of it, like, you cant have (for example): Victoria JSHAA Members, and then List of WA JSHAA Members, they must be either (state) JSHAA Members OR, List of (state) JSHAA Members - so which one you choose, so they must be the same except the name of the state - ill start the queensland bit, and post it in the talk page for you to throw in, coz we dont want edit conflicts. Smbarnzy 10:48, 27 February 2007 (UTC) Forgive me, im working on South Australia Smbarnzy 10:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, ill fix the daughter articles, they are all going to named from now on as "List of (insert state name) JSHAA Members"
Fixed the member states pages, ill go through and put all of the talk page info on their relevant talk pages, and then start getting some info on South Australia - although it looks pretty bleak - did u get info on the member schools from an external site or the JSHAA or JSHAA State one? Smbarnzy 11:04, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
i tried, dont know too much about this - might have to ask an admin about it User:Hesperian or User:Moondyne are pretty good Smbarnzy 11:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


[edit] JSHAA Talk Page

Im leaving some suggestions on the talk page for the article, which i have learnt from past edits (usually of Aquinas) and as such. Ill also add info to there, to avoid edit conflicts, so could you just check it before the end of the night (and again when you are going to sign off) to add the info in. Smbarnzy 11:18, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:President1.jpg

If you have permission to publish this image under the terms of the GFDL, then forward this permission to permissions AT wikimedia DOT org. Lupo 12:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

P.S.: Please note that a permission to "use the image on Wikipedia" is not sufficient. Lupo 12:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, an e-mail will do. Note that the image should be under a free license (GFDL, or one of the Creative Commons licenses such as {{cc-by}}. Noncommercial licenses or "for Wikipedia only" licenses are not acceptable on Wikipedia. Just e-mail the permission to the address given above; it will be stored in our mail archive and someone handling our mail queues will then tag leave a note on the image description page that a permission has been received. Lupo 13:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:President of Victoria.jpg

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[edit] Signature

It's all setup from 'my preferences' (menu at top).

  1. Add the following to the Signature box: [[User talk:Auroranorth|Auroranorth]]
  2. Tick the raw signature box
  3. Press Save button

And that's it. Remember to sign all of your posts with 4 tildes: ~~~~.

If you have any problems feel free to ask. —Moondyne 12:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging bio talk pages with {{WPBiography}}

Auroranorth, I noticed you've been updating some bio article talk pages. A couple of things:

  1. There is no need to include every parameter - they generally default to 'no', so those are not needed. With these types of templates, you generally only include a '=yes' if you want something different to show. Experiment in your sandbox or by using Show preview to see what I mean.
  2. Don't sign the talk page. Adding a template to a talk page is not like a discussion. You should go back to those page now and remove your signature.

—Moondyne 12:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

If you cast your eyes over to this page, you'll notice that we've got around 100,000 articles to assess - so it's kind of a cut and paste job. Since the = no parameter does not show up, what is the harm in doing this? Auroranorth 12:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Good to see your signature is working ;) To answer your question, technically none, but it just adds clutter to the page when you add redundant parameters and may upset other editors. I wouldn't do it as it looks tardy. If you plan on doing lots of articles you may find you get other editors complaining. Suit yourself. —Moondyne 12:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Also, don't add "WikiProject Biography ratings completed" to the page. Please go back and remove these statements and your signatures as I mentioned above. —Moondyne 12:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Its really good to see you're getting involved in things other than GGS and AC. If you want to grow and be a good Wikipedian you need to keep yourself exposed to lots of different things and interact with other editors. There's a whole world out there. —Moondyne 13:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] meetup

I noticed you started a meetup page try this one Wikipedia:Meetup/Perth its also linked from Wikipedia:WikiProject_Western_Australia#Meetup. Theres currently an open discussion about a possible meet on the 24th April. Gnangarra 13:03, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] REALLY?

Before you get into real problems and get blocked for nuisance editing (yes you can get it) . Forget Afd - try actually starting an article or a hundred from scratch before you even questions others validity, youre going into wiki back to front. Just get the experience of what it is like to (a) find a subject - check the subject on search - and there is nothing remotely like it (b) start the article - give it a category, give it adequate V and N (or now ATT) (c) develop the article with citations and references - and do that more than once before you even go down the afd road. Or - if you feel so confident read all the policies - regarding the process - and show in some way that you have read all of them, go and look at afd's in process. Aggressive outside admins would have blocked you by now for the two you have done so far - as a nuisance editor. You are very very lucky that the admins who have encountered you have chosen not to block you. Think, think, read more again on the issues, then very carefully think again about what you are doing on wikipedia - take the 'articles i have afd' off your user page -as far as wikipedia is concerned you are still in your nappies - and theyve been messed a few times SatuSuro 12:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Andrew Choi - ok - legit, but allan carpenter and the christian rocker - should have not had afd. SatuSuro 12:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Alan Carpenter's result was speedy keep. Auroranorth 12:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weirdo (speech)

[edit] AfD nomination of Weirdo (speech)

An article that you have been involved in editing, Weirdo (speech), has been listed by me for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weirdo (speech). Thank you. ~CS 08:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meetup comment move

I've move your comment to this page Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Perth as thats where discussions about possible meetup should take place, Gnangarra 11:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GGS chapel

If you are going to over rely on web based sources - which I have already advised you to not get suckedinto that trap as they are derivative information that is not verifiable in some cases - you dont delete the aikman reference- you put it into further reading - as i have done - it is far more thorough and accurate than all the other pseudo refs which you have inserted into the text. SatuSuro 12:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Try finding a copy of the book at school - read it - it has all the answers and was done a lot better than any of the web sources - they probably pinched from it anyway! SatuSuro 12:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
No thanks - declined - please dont. Not interested. SatuSuro 10:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
What would be better than a barnstar or promotion would be signs that you have read a book - that would take a great weight off my sense of frustration with the chapel and school articles SatuSuro 10:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alan Carpenter

The debate is now closed. I suggest you read our deletion policy before nominating any more articles for deletion. Even if an article did lack suitable references (which that didn't), this would never be grounds for deletion of an article about an individual who meets the notability criteria. I know you have been tagging articles for the WP:BIOGRAPHY project and I'm sure you would have seen many articles that are much more poorly written than Carpenter's. But, as long as the person is notable, the article remains regardless. By all means tag unreferenced articles with {{unreferenced}} or {{cn}} or better still, research and improve the article. Feel free to ask if you need advice. —Moondyne 14:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You for reviewing Australia-Indonesia Prisoner Exchange Agreement

I originally composed it as quite a large page with lots of information about what the agreement may provide for. This was considered 'crystal-balling' and the article was 'happysticked' down to its current size as the price of averting AfD nom. DavidYork71 16:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BIO Assessment

Hi, I think you took my section of the WP:BIO project of the A category. Real96 21:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] JSHAA

Im currently going through a minature re-write of the AC article, to make it better and smaller. Ill be there in about 20-30 mins, ok? what should we move onto next? Sorry i havent been working on it much, ive been quite busy. Smbarnzy 12:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Daylight saving

Sorry for not using your "desk", but I couldn't figure out which section to put it in. In the article Daylight saving time around the world, you appear to have removed some facts about media coverage of the Western Australian trial - mainly, indicating who supported what. Rather than getting into a revert war with another editor, I would suggest discussing it on the talk page for the article. I'm going to put back the claim in question with a "citation needed" tag for the TVW-7 survey, as it appears to speak a lot more strongly to Western Australian opposition to the trial than any wording we could place in. Orderinchaos78 14:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Dragons of Winter Night

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not on Talk:Dragons of Winter Night. Thank you. thewinchester 17:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment from an article page

Thank you for helping out with the Biography assessment drive. Good news. Outriggr recently designed a script that will cut your biography assessment time down by about ten fold (what took ten hours now may only take one hour with Outriggr's script). For more information, please see the 'assessment from article page' discussion. -- Jreferee 20:21, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two things

Firstly, this is your talk page. It is a community expectation that people can reach you by posting here. Sorry, but you don't get to close it and direct us elsewhere.

Secondly, your article ratings are causing tension within the community. From what I can tell, every experienced editor in WP:WA agrees that your assessments of article quality and importance are not accurate. You need more editing experience before you are qualified to evaluate the quality and importance of your own work and the work of others. I'm asking you nicely to please stop assessing articles, and to withdraw from the Good Article assessment process. Once you've spent a year writing articles, and personally taken an article to FA status, then you should have a much better idea of what community standards of quality and importance are.

Hesperian 04:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I 100% agree. You don't have the experience yet to assess other peoples work. An article that has got to GAC or FAC stage does not just happen and the editors have often put their heart and soul into getting it there. I'm sorry to be brutal, but it is inappropriate for a 11 or 12 year old school boy to be telling these people what they need to do to improve it. Based on your recent edit history, you have no understanding of editing, quality and assessment standards at Wikipedia.
I suggest that you tackle some of the maintenance tasks like Hesperian has suggested below. If you want to work on an article, do so by all means but you need to accept that you may only be able to take it to a certain stage and that FA or GA status may not be a realistic possibility. I will think of something though and have one or two ideas already. I'll get back to you after I give it a bit more thought. —Moondyne 11:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I agree with what is being said here. I think if you want to have credibility when you are doing ratings you have to be able to point to work of your own that others in the Wikipedia community have deemed worthy. I had a look through your ratings last night and many of them were unnecessarily critical or harsh - I looked at the same articles and many of them had only a few issues and were only in need of helpful feedback. In a couple of cases you even disrupted or circumvented the long established GA process. I notice today you have quoted consensus to people - what consensus means is that you have to negotiate with other editors to reach the best solution. DanielT5 14:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Speaking personally, I would be far more comfortable if someone rating articles themselves had experience in producing quality articles. I would agree broadly with Hesperian's and Moondyne's comments above. What I would recommend doing is finding an interest, something for which spending time researching it and getting it right won't actually be an arduous task but a fun one where you end up feeling like you have genuinely gained something from the process as well as added to Wikipedia's store of knowledge. Your spelling and grammar is well ahead of most adults let alone most your age, so I think if you can focus on achieving your potential here, and realise that everyone else here is here to improve the encyclopaedia just like you, even if they hold differing opinions, you'll be a great editor. It takes time and effort though, doesn't just happen overnight. Orderinchaos78 12:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I'm going to turn around this sort-of disruptive stuff and work towards being a valuable Western Australian Wikipedian. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 07:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article to edit

Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 11:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)Hi Moondyne - do you have any suggestions on a stub or non-existent article I could bring to FA without months of extensive research? Thanks, Auroranorth 08:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, what are you interested in? Do play or follow any sports? Hobbies? Give me some hints and I'm sure I can come up with a project. Its always better to work on something your vaguely interested in. You say you got 2 articles to GA. What were they if I may ask? —Moondyne 09:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Getting an article up to FA or GA takes a lot of time and effort. There's no shortcut; there's no such thing as "a stub or non-existent article I could bring to FA without months of extensive research"; and there's no way that you have invested heaps of time and effort to get two articles up to GA quality, only to forgot what they were. Either find an area that you are prepared to invest months in, or give up now. Hesperian 10:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I forgot what they were because I picked the article up when it was at Start-B class range and left it at GA. I worked with lots of people on the article - it could have been Western Australia or something... it was something to do with WA. I've found a topic to work on but haven't submitted it yet... Percy Henn. Auroranorth 10:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
There are only seven WA-related GAs: Argyle diamond mine, Convict era of Western Australia, Cullacabardee, Western Australia, Dryandra Woodland, Fremantle prison, Perth, Western Australia, Scotch College, Perth. So which was it? Hesperian 11:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Every Australia-related GA is listed at Category:GA-Class Australia articles. I can't see any other WA-related articles; can you? Hesperian 11:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I can't find any article you have substantially worked on which has reached GA.
What? I didn't get blocked for any edit on Daylight Saving Time... unless it was done without my knowledge. I'll search through my talk archives. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 09:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
You've been blocked several times [1]. Edits at Daylight Saving Time which earned the block were [2] and [3] and [4] and [5]. —Moondyne 09:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

May I butt in here? Why not something iconic? Perth, Western Australia and Swan River, Western Australia are two that are already substantial...cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 11:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC) ..........West Coast Eagles if you like sport.....cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 11:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes you may... but Perth is already at GA. Hesperian 11:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd add that I agree with Hesperian, you have to be interested; it becomes pretty boring if you lose interest, then just move onto something else. It is supposed to be fun. Some articles come together alot more easily than others. It really helps if it is something you are really familiar with and can quickly decide what should be in the article or not, and what sounds sensible. cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 11:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you. However I'm caught up at Percy Henn right now. Auroranorth(WikiDesk) 11:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's an idea. List of lakes in Western Australia is a complete list of lakes. Research and write a stub article on every lake over (say) one ten square kilometres - you could click on the coordinates link and view the map for each from Google earth to asses its approximate size. Search for each lake by name in the Geoscience of Australia Place Name Search and add the results url to each entry in the remarks column. Go to your library and see if you can find some books on any of the larger lakes. —Moondyne 12:30, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions

Hey Hesperian - can you suggest some things that I should/can do suited to me? Thanks Auroranorth 08:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
It strikes me you would enjoy
  1. RC patrol - watching Special:Recentchanges and reverting garbage edits.
  2. NP Patrol - watching Special:Newpages and tagging garbage articles for speedy deletion or AfD.
  3. Newbies patrol - watching Special:Contributions/newbies and reverting garbage edits.
Any interest in any of these? Hesperian 10:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nymphotomy

I've marked the article with {{hangon}}. My apologies for removing the tag: it's been a long time since I've been on the receiving end of a {{db-empty}}. As you can see, I'm still in the process of writing an article on this non-trivial subject, one that embraces both labiaplasty and female genital mutilation. {{db-empty}} is not appropriate. Please see PubMed, or Google for evidence. -- The Anome 11:41, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

You protected the article after acknowledging in an edit comment that you knew I was in the process of writing it, and I had already added the {{hangon}} tag. Would you please now unprotect the article, so it can be expanded? -- The Anome 11:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
The article wasn't protected - the template was added without any protection being applied. I have considered the request for speedy deletion and find no grounds for it and have removed the templates. Thanks.--Alf melmac 11:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! -- The Anome 11:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Auroranorth, you ought to include an edit summary for every edit you make. But if you won't do that, you must at least provide an edit summary for all your contentious edits. If you nominate an article for speedy deletion, for example, you must provide an edit summary, so that it shows up on people's watchlists telling them what you've done. Hesperian 11:55, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The edits you made to Nymphotomy are verging on disruptive behaviour. There were no grounds to tag that article. Rather than assuming bad faith in everything you see how about trying the opposite. —Moondyne 11:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, everyone, I'd like to apologise for my disruptive behaviour. I'll try to veer away from that path from now on. Thanks for the reminder. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 07:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Guildford Grammar Preparatory School

Hi, i've noticed a number of recent edits you've made to this article and I need to bring up some issues with you. First and foremost, do not remove fact tags from the article unless you are going to cite a source for the statement that has been requested. The article in question makes quite a number of statements about the operations of the school and it's administration, and it would be best to ensure these are suitably sourced. Secondly, can you please ensure the neutrality of the language you use. There is some language you have used which is less than neutral and i've gone through and corrected it as such. Take a comparison of my edits to see what I mean. thewinchester 00:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:End of Daylight Saving.jpg

The above image has been identified as a copyright violation from http://www.news2wkrn.com/weather/archives/Daylight%20Saving%20Time.jpg. You said: "Author: I created it and sent it to this news site. However, they gave me permissions since I created it. I hereby release it into the public domain."

The Wikimedia Foundation takes copyright violations very seriously and blatant attempts to misrepresent ownership is a very bad thing to do. —Moondyne 13:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Given the blatant lie and deception, your editing privilege is removed and your block is extended to a fortnight. —Moondyne 15:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
This is so sad. You falsely claimed to have authored something created by someone else, you uploaded it despite knowing that it was a copyright violation, and you lied to try to cover your tracks. This community now recognises you as a liar and a thief. All your edits will be viewed with suspicion, and all your actions will be scrutinised. Was the image really so important that you'd sell your integrity and reputation for it? Hesperian 23:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me? If you check Permissions email inbox, you should find an email from me! What are you talking about? I do not think you are taking Wikipedia seriously, and are being rather block happy. A contest to this block will be send soon. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 10:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Seriously Aurora? That was a blatant copyvio and a lie. IvoShandor 10:39, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I have permission. Direct permission. So stop it, now.

<--removing personal attack-->

You have been warned. Please do not leave any more messages here for one fortnight. They will not be responded to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Auroranorth (talk • contribs).


Warned! Ha! I tried to help you! Some thanks. I believe those administrators word over yours anyday, as your hasty ability to go turncoat on individuals who tried to help you has been duly noted. IvoShandor 11:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Hey, common the lot of you! just be civil! this is plain crazy. Just leave each other be! and remember: "comment on the subject - not the editor" SMBarnZy 07:53, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
I have Auroranorth on MSN right now (email address verified). You may wish to know that I have his permission to edit his user page (as he says he can't edit it) and unofficially take a very long 'wikibreak'. If noone has any objections, I'll edit it and tell everyone he's departed. I'll see him on Monday and ask him what he wants me to do. Until then, Seventy dot 12:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Why dont you publish the convo on here? SMBarnZy 12:17, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
He says it's an 'invasion of privacy, sm. i'll only let you put short bits on the wiki. see you' Oh, well... Seventy ... dot ... 13:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Block extended for sockpuppeteering

Your sockpuppet User:Seventy dot has been blocked indefinitely. For using a sockpuppet to evade your block, your block is extended to one month. Hesperian 04:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, i do believe that the three admins are correct. I thought it was Auror - because of the way you asked me about "him" and how you wanted to edit the GGS article because he left. Auroranorth, please take what has happened as a warning - dont try and mess with the community - it serves no purpose. In my eyes you have lost alot of respect, and undoubtedly in the eyes of the community too. Do not return to wiki until you want to be serious. Good luck. SMBarnZy 12:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nuisance

RickK: <--personal attack removed-->

I used to think this was rubbish, but now I see the meaning for his words.

I now repeat this statement, almost two years later.

There is no reason to continue here. I may see you in a year, but for now I will refrain from visiting Wikipedia. I was once enthusiastic about Wikipedia, but because of people such as Hesperian and Moondyne (I'm not afraid to say names), I have decided that Wikipedia is an unfriendly place. Don't remove this message.

There is no reason to continue here.


Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 04:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply as you will, email me, your messages will be answered, I assure you. But you shall not abuse the knowledge stored in Wikipedia, nor slap in the face those who oppose your actions.

P.S. Seventy dot and BigMacintosh aren't mine. I don't sock puppeteer. I just throw flames to whoever will listed.

Excellent work Auroranorth. Not that there was a shred of doubt, but you've just provided further evidence against yourself. Come back in six months when your block expires. The game is over. —Moondyne 09:25, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
What evidence! Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 11:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Who are you to say this. Stop doing this now.

I must know, what evidence? Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 09:34, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nuisance

RickK:

There is a fatal flaw in the system. Vandals, trolls and malactors are given respect, whereas those who are here to actually create an encyclopedia, and to do meaningful work, are slapped in the face and not given the support needed to do the work they need to do.

I now repeat this statement, almost two years later.

There is no reason to continue here. I may see you in a year, but for now I will refrain from visiting Wikipedia. I was once enthusiastic about Wikipedia, but because of people such as Hesperian and Moondyne (I'm not afraid to say names), I have decided that Wikipedia is an unfriendly place. Don't remove this message.

There is no reason to continue here.


Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 04:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply as you will, email me, your messages will be answered, I assure you. But you shall not abuse the knowledge stored in Wikipedia, nor slap in the face those who oppose your actions.

P.S. Seventy dot and BigMacintosh aren't mine. I don't sock puppeteer. I know you think they were mine, and they sure deserved it, what with the streams of consciousness, but the <---personal attack removed--> who spoil Wikipedia will not bring down the likes of me. Seventy dot is unhappy with you at school and BigMacintosh... I don't even know who that is.

Now for my final farewell statement, taken from those souls who have departed Wikipedia -

  • I'm no longer taking part here. Essjay (Talk) 03:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I also think that Wikipedia is becoming less and less effective Martinp 15:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I hope that at some point we will learn how to do it better. Martinp 15:19, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry to say that I have retired due to too much stress with Wikipedia and the bad administrators (not saying that all admins are bad). Stress between bad admins (and I'm not afraid to name names) such as rEaL nAmE 09:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC) such as <---personal attack removed-->. See OBE - the government backing down? WEAK. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 09:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC).
  • "I was blocked for being a puppet master? This is laughable, Please unblock." Planetary Chaos Talk to me 19:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
  • I'd sooner spend the rest of the day relaxing, and sleeping, than wasting time on IRC, and spending time editing Wiki*. User:NigelJ/Leaving Message
Any correspondence may be left through my classmate Seventy dot, who you blocked for being a 'sock puppet of me'. How ridiculous. I may be back in a year, when you've corrected Wikipedia's gaping holes.

And, oh, Moondyne? What evidence? <---personal attack removed--> .

Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 09:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

This user has decided to leave Wikipedia.
I know that you are going through some times, Auroranorth, but please no personal attacks. Real96 10:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
OK. All you have to do is ask me nicely and I'll comply. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 10:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Except when you go over the top. I'm allowed to complain about particular admins, that's called a dictatorship and restricting my freedom of speech (lol) if you don't. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 10:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
You can come back in six months, once your ban has been lifted. Real96 10:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Just when I thought I couldn't sink lower. See you on WIKIA. <---personal attack removed-->. Auroranorth (WikiDesk) 10:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
You're blocked from editing, Auroranorth. That means permission to edit Wikipedia has been temporarily withdrawn, and that includes this page. The only reason you are technically able to edit this page is to enable you to request an unblock. If you continue to flout your block by posting messages here, this page will be protected. Hesperian 11:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

(reduce indent) Not to escalate the topic any further, but Wikia has a copyrights on images as well. Real96 11:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

That's no problem... why did you bring that up? Oh, I get it. No, I'm not going to send that thing to Wikia. I'm positive there. Hesperian, can you not protect this page? I'm not banned, just blocked. I'll reform if I feel like it in six months.

There is a fatal flaw in the system. Vandals, trolls and malactors are given respect, whereas those who are here to actually create an encyclopedia, and to do meaningful work, are slapped in the face and not given the support needed to do the work they need to do.

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