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You're Right

Bullies just make me lose my temper. I'll put it back. Karmafist Save Wikipedia 05:43, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Provocation

I think the key right now for me seems to be saving face. I don't understand what people are talking about in regards to the welcoming considering my perceptions on the matter, but if I could hear Jimbo or somebody at his level say something like...

"Karmafist, we appreciate all you've done here on Wikipedia, and we would like you to stay, and we recognize that in order for that to happen that there need to be some changes, but you'll have to trust that things can be done through current channels and your signature not only isn't necessary, but it's making the situation unfortunately worse. Please, let us work together to make Wikipedia a better place."

If I saw that on my talk page, i'd change my sig in a second. I guess it's partially my fault that I didn't think that was possible in the first place given the atmosphere following the Userbox Wars(AGF is fine, but assuming once you should be knowing is just plain gullibility), but I hope to establish good faith from here on if possible, but it's going to take that first step. Jimbo said he'd do something like that, so I can wait for now, but if I think he just sees me as a sucker and will say anything to get me to contributing to his website again, that good faith is gone and I see no more options to work from within Wikipedia. Karmafist Save Wikipedia 13:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I can't believe it didn't occur to me that that find-and-replace would break those links. :-)

Ooh, Reed! :-) In all honesty, I think going to Reed is the best possible decision I could have made. "Extreme academic workload" I think would describe my life right now very well. My first quarter here I managed well by cutting my Wikipedia usage to near-zero on the weekdays. Now I get by, constantly sleep-deprived and always behind, and, since I'm one of those that refuses to caffeinate myself, free time is severely limited. An I enjoy it. That's one of the things I think you have to understand to get this place; sure we all complain, but we love it. The conference-style classes really permeate the whole atmosphere here. In the beginning it was disconcerting for me, but once you get used to it, and engage yourself, it is difficult to imagine anything better. As for politics, I think any reputation of that kind is overrated. College-age is still the most underrepresented group in the vote, and so while most people are very good anti-Bush-ites, most of the people are indifferent and stuck in the Reed bubble most of the time. And the few genuinely conservative people I know (i.e. are often the international students) do fine. As for drug usage: a lot of it is blatant, but, if that is not your thing (as it is not mine), in my experience it's really something you have to seek out to get involved with anyway. And to be sure there are plenty of tame substance-free dorms, and substance free people, too.

I hope you'll consider it. You may want to talk to JesseW (maybe he can fill you in on the drug use :-) who lives in my dorm, and Zora, an alum. Dmcdevit·t 04:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the welcome. I grew up in WH, went to Hall, went to college in VT and still live here. See you around. Propound 11:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Tony Sidaway

Sorry for the delay, I never agreed to anything there, because nothing happened, as usual. Karmafist Save Wikipedia 23:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Spanish leet-speak

La palabra que trataba de hacer es "problemas". (R es difícil.) Lo siento, pero congratulations para tus intentos. Causaste que yo esté feliz. Gracias... ¡feliz editar! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 04:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Quizá... pues, trataba de decir "You got any problem wit dat, bub?" o algo... así, no me importó que no fuera perfecta... todovía, lo cambiaré. Gracias otra vez. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 18:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Dudo que "bub" vaya a ser necesario, pero gracias. ;) Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 19:04, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem

Hi, I was about to send you a vandalism warning, but looked at your contributions first, and decided that your revert of my edit was an accident. I did once hit rollback by accident myself!  :-) AnnH ♫ 19:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Reed College

Reed College is a good place for scholars and weirdos. One major drawback: somehow, it inculcates the message that academia is the highest aim to which one can aspire. An incredibly high proportion of the student body goes on to grad school and the professoriate. Given the dire state of things in academia these days (gross over-supply of PhDs, adjunctification), this is not a good thing for students. Are you a realist? An experimentalist? Can you think of careers other than the professoriate? If so, you may survive Reed.

Why I ended up at Berkeley: money. After a year and a half at Reed, during which I studied fiercely and partied hard, my mother searched my suitcase, found the birth control pills, and demanded that I grovel at her feet and abjure my hippie ways or she would stop making the tiny contributions that she WAS making to my college education. I refused to grovel, she cut me off. That meant that I couldn't get any more student loans. I had to drop out of school for a year and establish myself as an emancipated minor to get my loans back. I went back to Reed for one more year after that, then looked at the mounting loan totals and transferred to UC Berkeley, which at California resident rates, was a damn sight cheaper.

I recommended Reed to my daughter and she ended up at Mills, in Oakland, where she has access to all the classes at Berkeley. As a friend said, "The mango doesn't fall far from the tree." Even if it thinks it is rebelling. Zora 19:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Hip hop music

hi Jabberwock -- thanks for the note. I was reverting what seemed like a continued series of vandalism by one person, first as an IP and then as a new registered user. I had already left a message on the IP's page, and it seemed clear to me that it was the same person (they used some of the same words, as I recall) and that they knew what they were up to. I guess I figured that reverting it silently was as effective and slightly easier. Maybe I was just a bit lazy... sometimes when it seems like a drive-by vandalism, I don't say anything, because there doesn't seem to be any point in alerting them that I've reverted. but in a case of repeating vandalism like this, next time I'll add a note. thanks! bikeable (talk) 19:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy editing. TheJabberwock 15:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree that edit summaries are very important. TheJabberwock 15:03, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that is me talking to myself :-) TheJabberwʘck 16:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for your message. I'm sorry for not giving an explanation, that slipped my mind. Oghmoir 16:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanx

I'm so glad you like it! ImpuMozhi 03:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Autoedit

I saw you used my autoedit link on eraser. That happened to me 2 times: [1] and [2], but I reverted them both immediately. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs).

Charlie Kaufman Hall '76

Hey Dan,

Here's an official source: http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/filmography.html?p_id=271315, which notes that Charlie "attended junior high and high school in West Hartford, Connecticut, where his family moved in 1972."

But my best source isn't available on the net: I'm a Hall High grad myself (Class of 2003). After hearing that Charlie had been a true-blue Warrior, I checked out the 1976 Hallmarks at the school library. Sure enough, there he was -- complete with Jewfro and a blurb about the drama department. I believe his parents still live in West Hartford. Personally I think he's one of our most accomplished graduates.

All best,

--Mike. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.247.141.80 (talk • contribs).

I'm back!!

After a year I decided to finally come back and stop whining like a little baby. I apologize to the whole of Wikipedia. I'll be spending a significant majority of my time over at WIkibooks though. My keyboard won't let me make tilda's. So, this post is signed by Jaberwocky6669 at 5:44 PM -5:00 GMT on April 26, 2006.

  • I found my tilda key! My keyboard was set to UK after I installed XP! Jaberwocky6669 16:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

RE:Adios

This is my last (couple or so) days and since I am only checking in to respond to messages I recieve, I would like to say the same; I would have liked to got to know you too. I am really waiting to hear something to force me to come back to, but I haven't heard anything yet. As it stands, I am unneeded. Thanks for the message. Moe ε 04:02, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

While I find it funny that I was just compared to an Earthworm, that still doesn't fix Wikipedia's problems. Thanks for the analogy though. ;-) Moe ε 04:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
PS. I found this funny. Moe ε 04:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem!

Hey, no problem! I usually do that, though; if I see an interesting discussion on some pages or something similar, I'll click around a bit and add things to my watchlist; it only takes a few seconds but lets me befriend lots of people to complete my plan of global domination become more of a member of the Wikipedia community. And I too have been vandalised a few times by my classmates (note to self: never tell them you have a Wikipedia account :P). Cheers! :D—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Master of Puppets (talk • contribs).

This is Moe

Image:This is Moe.jpg
Hello Iamthejabberwock, just thought I would let you know that I was leaving Wikipedia, but before I left, I finally got a picture of thyself onto Wikipedia. (I know great timing for me to post a picture of myself, right?) This is my final gift to my friends. Later! PS. Try not to laugh to hard at my ugly mug ok? Moe ε 15:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Your message on the speedy deletion of Template:CharacterStats really made my day. Thanks very much for your help, it reminds me that most admins are benign and helplful :) DavidMcKenzie 08:30, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Your public watchlist

I would suggest making a public watchlist in the same format as mine by using {{watchlistlink}}, {{watchlistlink2}}, {{watchlistlink3}}, and {{watchlistlink4}}. Mine creates a watchlist out of a page of links or a category. So, you could have a page with links to different IP talk pages, and it will make a watchlist out of that, or you can make a watchlist out of a category. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 04:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't think I use the watchlist in the same way as you. My sites aren't really grouped by topic, and I wouldn't want to be watching all the pages in a category. TheJabberwʘck 01:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Why not just make a watchlist out of all of the links on that page. It would look like:
  • User:Iamthejabberwock/Watch (watchlist). If you click on that watchlist link, it generates a watchlist out of all the links on that page. This way, you don't have to do it by topic. But, if you still don't want to use it, then whatever. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 01:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I just have a link to [3] in my Firefox toolbar. TheJabberwʘck 01:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I use firefox too. I hate IE. That is why I created this userbox: {{User browser hate:Microsoft Internet Explorer}} —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs).
Haha, that's good. Careful, though, if Doc Glasgow notices it he'll probably speedy delete it. Do you know about IE Tab? TheJabberwʘck 02:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Doc glaslow probably will speed delete it if he reads this discussion and clicks on the link to the template. And, no, I haven't heard of IE Tab. But, have you heard of this firefox theme called Luna Blue? It kind-of defeats one of the purposes of having firefox over IE. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 02:18, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
IE Tab does too. It's great for JavaScript stuff like email (Yahoo mail only works to a limited extent on Firefox). I don't use themes on the computer which I'm on now, which is really old and slow. But I'll check out Luna Blue on my other comp. TheJabberwʘck 02:21, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't like Luna Blue, because it is just like IE. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 02:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Watchlisttalk

Instead of having {{{1}}} and {{{2}}}, should we have {{{namespace}}} and {{{page}}}? --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 04:07, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, what do you think? I guess it's easier as is, and less clutter on a watchlist page. TheJabberwʘck 04:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I gotta go. I'll talk to you tomorrow. TheJabberwʘck 04:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't have to go to sleep for a while. I'm in California, so right now it is 9:14 PM. I know your time is later, because you're in Connecticut. I think we should leave the template the way it is. --GeorgeMoneyTalk  Contribs 04:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. TheJabberwʘck 22:37, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

WP's an encyclopedia

How about if it's bold? I'd prefer it that way--much, much easier to read. (Oh, and you obviously have excellent taste in music. ) Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 07:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Marijuana Wiki

Hi there,

I see that you are a pro-Cannabis Wikipedian so I hope this will be of some interest to you.

I've started a Marijuana wiki (aka The Sticky Wiki) which I think you might be interested in. I'm hoping you can help me get started with this project. Whereas lots of articles about weed get speedy-deleted on Wikipedia, they would be totally cool over at MarijuanaWiki. But really I want the site to be more of a marijuana community than merely an encyclopedia.

To give you an example, I want to have city guides about where to score, find pot-friendly cafes, marijuana events, and what represents a good price in that city. Etc. (You can check out the featured article: "Toronto" to see what I mean). I also want to have grow diaries and marijuana blogs. All in all, basically more communal than encyclopedic.

I am in need of admins/moderators, and people experienced with MediaWiki to help build policy, categories, and templates, etc. If you'd be interested in helping me with this project, the URL is MarijuanaWiki

Thanks for your time and consideration. Hope to see you there!

-- nsandwich 23:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi again. Actually, the site is not explicitly pro-marijuana. I'm hoping to turn it into a large knowledgebase about the plant. Thus, articles about the legalization debate (and health effects, and how to build a bong, and the dangers of pot) are all very much our bread and butter. If you can help in that way, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks :) -- nsandwich 00:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Personal templates

Hi, with regard to Template:Tls2, personalised template should not be in the general template space. If they are, they are normally deleted on sight. Rather than do that, I have moved this into your userspace as User:Iamthejabberwock/Tls2. Tou may like to know that you can still transclude pages from your userpage by placing {{}} rounf them. Thanks. --Doc ask? 21:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Someone vandalized your page

I reverted this edit on your userpage by 69.177.236.78 (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log). I think you might want to warn him yourself. --GeorgeMoney T·C 23:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Some friends of mine also think it's funny that I spend alot of time on Wikipedia too, but they have accounts. BTW, is that the same friend who vandalized your userpage and turned it "gangstery", then you and Moe Epsilon warned him in "gangster talk"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GeorgeMoney (talk • contribs).

List of prank flash animations

deletion of this page has occurred before, and has simply led to the main prank flash article becoming a spam magnet. thats why it was recreated again after that (i believe twice). therefore its better to leave this page up. its the best way to keep the spam away from the main prank flash article. Zzzzz 01:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: welcome

Thank you, however, Captain scarlet was wrong about the vandalism. This is mainly because the newbie test template was placed in error. It is (as I'm sure you can guess) intended for newbie test edits (along the lines of "can I really edit this?" or random formatting), whereas Captain scarlet instead used it to justify reverting edits they didn't agree with. In particular, I direct you to the very next section, which states:

It is generally acceptable to remove misplaced vandalism tags ...

Thanks, 81.104.165.184 07:18, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

However, although the first warning template may have been "misplaced," the subsequent ones were certainly not
Not quite sure what you meant by this (since none of my edits were niewbie tests or vandalism), but I did try and raise attention from others, but in typical fashion, it was ignored. Thanks, 81.104.165.184 09:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm not having false and erroneous warnings left on my talk page just because someone didn't agree with me. That's not what the messages are for, and I'd ask you to respect the fact that the messages are on my talk page, and I shall remove them as I see fit. I don't know what you're trying to achieve, but User:Captain scarlet has a considerable history of poor co-operation, so I object to being labelled a vandal because another problem user disagrees with me. Thanks. 81.104.165.184 09:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I should point out the background of this issue. User:Captain scarlet and User:81.104.165.184 were in a content dispute on the article High Speed Train; you can see the discussion (showing that Captain scarlet was entirely aware that this was a content dispute) on Talk:High Speed Train. Captain scarlet apparently eventually became frustrated and accused 81.104.165.184 of vandalism; the exact edit claimed as vandalism is this one. It is, it should be noted, indisputably not vandalism, and as illustrated above Captain scarlet must have been aware of this; knowingly placing a false talk-page warning on someone's page is clearly abuse-of-tags vandalism, and therefore Captain scarlet's original addition of the tag was straightforward act of vandalism. Vandalism, even to talk pages, can be swiftly reverted by anyone; there are no special provisions in the rules to provide protection for tags beyond that accorded to normal, non-vandal comments, and therefore a warning tag placed as vandalism can be instantly reverted by any user... and, in any case, arguing that users must leave vandalism on their talk pages simply makes no sense. If that were the case, every vandal-fighter's user talk page would be nothing but an endless mess of warnings placed by irate vandals. Vandal fighters do revert such warnings, all the time, and the only reason nobody comments on it is because they're not nameless IPs and therefore nobody feels the urge to WP:BITE them. --Aquillion 00:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out

I think that happened during a very "hot" period of vandal attacks. Hard to keep up sometimes. It was my intent...at the time...to backtrack and check up on that one. It didn't "feel" right when I clicked it. VandalProof can be a little TOO convenient sometimes. Ol' Dick Cheese makes an appearance on lots of pages. Who knew he might fit in on that one. Feel free to correct my faux. Cheers and take care! Anger22 01:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

West Hartford

I have no connection to West Hartford or its high schools. I navigated to those articles from your userpage, which I was reading because I look at people's pages when I start to see them get involved in certain areas of Wikipedia. Btw, I did a disambig on your userpage just now. Keep up the good work. NoSeptember talk 05:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Link Spam in Computer Pranks

Hello,

I removed the links because I was under the impression ABS was considered "spam". The reason I thought this was, I had also inserted a link for a popular prank site that comes close to the top for the keyword "online pranks" called monkeydoo. I added the link under ABS and it was quickly removed by "Zzz" (i think it was) considered spam? I thought the link http://www.monkeydoo.com/pranks_Online+Pranks.html was completely relevant, am I wrong?

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.121.146.83 (talk • contribs).

Spam #1

You are receiving this message, because you signed up to my spamlist

I'm sorry if this spam seems a little weird, but it is the first spam.

Dear people:

User:Iamthejabberwock needs a new name! Would you please suggest a username for him. The reason for this is because he doesn't want to get confused with User:Thejabberwock.

please help

Thanks, --GeorgeMoney T·C 00:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

What a dumbass! Why doesn't he figure it out himself? I can't believe George is helping him with this. They should both be shot. TheJabberwʘckhelp! 00:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
What!
Shoot yourself! Not me! --GeorgeMoney T·C 00:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Just kidding. I found it funny that you spammed me as well. TheJabberwʘckhelp! 01:05, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I wasn't looking. I even spammed myself! --GeorgeMoney T·C 01:14, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
You forgot about User:Jabberwocky! You sure picked a popular name. Prodego talk 02:35, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Ahh, I see you didn't. (just saw the talk page) Prodego talk 02:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I see you elected to do what I did... Make somthing up! (I am not affilated with prodego.com or prodego.de). The only difference is that "Audacity" is an actual word ;-). I just want to make sure you are aware of the procedure on chaging your username, and that you should not create the account Audacity. Prodego talk 02:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
You already had your username changed, what an intersting bug. Prodego talk 02:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Yah, weird. I have a couple of edits under User:Iamthejabberwock now. Λυδαcιτγ 04:31, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
That is extremely odd, because you have contribs on Iamthejabberwock, but if you look at list users Iamthejabberwock doesn't exist. I would suggest creating it now for a few reasons: 1)So nobody creates it and impersonates you. 2)To make contribs on that account after you create it and see if the contribs that shouldn't be there are still there. 3)Before I create it. --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
Done. It is weird: the software let me keep editing without an account as Iamthejabberwock, and then locked me out (account deleted) when I tried to log back in. But I've secured the account now. Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 05:01, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Frown

Before this gets deleted...

Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) has frowned at you! Frowns promote WikiHate and hopefully this one has made your day worse. Spread the WikiHate by frowning to someone else, whether it be someone you have had agreements with in the past or a bad enemy. Frown to others by adding {{subst:frown}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 21:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

How yinyang of you :-). NoSeptember talk 23:38, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

{{summary}}

Hi. For now I reverted your changes to that template, and that for the following reasons.

First, while using shortcuts is a good idea, there is an unhealthy trend recently towards all and everything having a shortcut, and the shortcut (and more than one) being displayed in the respective page. I would argue that shortcuts should be used only for really long names, and for proeminent documents, otherwise that boxy shortcut tag is just distracting.

Another issue is the {{subst:Summary}} thing. At least to me, it does not make sense to refer to a template that way. That "subst" in there is distracting and does not add information. {{Summary}} is a bit better I would think, but even that one looks not so pleasing with the curly braces, and, in formal writing referring to the template as simply template:summary I would think is more appropriate.

Wonder what you think. You can reply here. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... If the problem with shortcuts is simply the space they take up as listings, why not condense the listings? Just make a single line (Shortcut: TP:SUM or whatever) and add it to the noinclude part.
I see what you mean about the subst:. It's purpose, though, is to remind people to subst: the template. If I just copy {{Editsummary}} off the Template:Summary page, I'll probably forget to subst. Similarly, {{Summary}} more than template:summary, because is both clickable and copy-and-pasteable, and ives you an idea of how the template should be used. I'm extremely tired - can I get back to you tomorrow? Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 04:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, but you cannot remind users on every single template that it must be subst'ed. It is just not feasible. After a certain point using more instructions is just not paying off.
At the risk of inconvenincing some people, and at the risk of confusing some people, in certain places brevity and good style are appropriate, I would think. Otherwise we end up with pages which are not very pretty, not very useable. That's what I would think anyway. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
It's not only a reminder, it's a guideline. For newbies, at least, it's not obvious that such a template should be subst'ed. Anyway, I moved the info to the talk page, is that acceptable? Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 01:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes I am sure newbies won't know that it has to be subst'ed. However, the guideline about subst'ing templates can't be put on all templates, it is impractial and not an elegant solution. I am more worried about newbies not using edit summaries, rather than not subst'ing the {{summary}} template. :) Putting that info on the talk page is of course acceptable.
The whole point I was trying to make is that pages should look good, and have a clean look. I don't have a good way of explaining that, but there is a trend on Wikipedia towards filling pages with instructions, clarifications, frameboxes, etc, which ends up in an unusable thing at the end. Anyways, thanks for listening. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 04:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Loaded response?

I noticed you felt compelled to delete my comments on BigDT's talk page because you felt they were a loaded goodbye? Did you happen to see WHY he is leaving? His reasons for leaving were loaded in and of themselves, I was just voicing my complete agreement and support as he was driven off this site by a small number of over zealous and abusive admins. Seems pretty loaded to me and for very good reason. JohnnyBGood t c 16:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem

I'm glad to be of service. ILovePlankton (T—C—U—L) 18:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Smile

FellowWikipedian has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!


Hmmm... I liked my frown better. Thanks anyway. Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 04:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiMoney

GeorgeMoney has given you some WikiMoney from the United Editors of Wikipedia. Spread the money by copying the code of this message and sending it to other people. BTW, Have you ever visited the United Editors of Wikipedia? --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
GeorgeMoney has given you some WikiMoney from the United Editors of Wikipedia. Spread the money by copying the code of this message and sending it to other people. BTW, Have you ever visited the United Editors of Wikipedia? --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:32, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


Why subst Template:Tlp?

{{tl}} and its sister templates are some of the most widely used templates in Wikipedia, using up a lot of bandwidth to transclude them. With substing, the server doesn't have to pull up the template every time the page is viewed, so it uses less bandwidth. It was actually on the list of WP:SUBST already, so I just added it into the usage notes; I didn't change any guidelines or anything. --Rory096 21:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

OK. Λυδαcιτγ(TheJabberwock) 22:21, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Very Cool New Name

Man, i'm going to have to spend days just saying hi to all the good people on here again! I'm not quite ready to edit articles again(personally, I still view it as basically just working for Jimbo without being paid for it), but i've taken the entire month off to clear my head to focus on writing a book about subjects related to the cabal.

Nobody in the outside media ever talks about it, I think we need to change that. Heck, worked for Upton Sinclair and the Jungle, right?

Now, as always, i'm honored by your friendship. Please let me know if I can help in non-article space related stuff. Karmafist Save Wikipedia 02:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:For2

Thanks for the tip. Will check these templates. --Charles Cassidy 10:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Buzz Armstrong

Hello,

I noticed your comment on Quiddity's talk page about correcting other peoples' spelling. I really do hope you realize Neal Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin are two different people... Also, Armstrong has said in a documentary I've seen that he certainly meant to say "for a man," but isn't sure what he said now. :) Search4Lancer 19:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:Wikipedia talk Administrators' noticeboard

Well, my first experiment in editing other users' talk pages and comments was an overwhelming success. The The Promenader was very co-operative and gave me his permission to do this. (Please view my edit history) --Siva1979Talk to me 20:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Editing comments

Thanks for letting me know about that! :-) --XdiabolicalX 16:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I think I might know you from somwhere...

Were you by any chance on the Connecticut ARML team this year? --Salur 00:09, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I was in room 607, to answer your question on my page. --Salur 00:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
My name's Russell Klare. I happened to see the first page of the Wikipeida:Facebook and I thought I recognized you. Apparently I did.--Salur 00:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I was on C team. I had a brother who was also on the team, if that rings a bell. We played Mafia a few times (that's how I recognized you). --Salur 00:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm a senior, so no next year for me. I'm assuming you're a junior (who, from the looks of your user page, wants to go to Reed?). Did you know you were born exactly one day after I was? --Salur 00:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I applied to Reed but got waitlisted. I'm sure you have better grades than I did though. I'm going to Harvey Mudd College in the fall. Good luck with school and stuff.--Salur 00:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Cranky

Don't you think you are kinda cranky today? Come on. It is a wiki, and you don't own your contributions to wikipedia. From WP:OWN: "If you don't want your material to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it". From WP:USER: "Other users may edit pages in your user space, although by convention your user page will usually not be edited by others." Which means that anyone is allowed to edit your space, but not many people want to. --GeorgeMoney T·C 17:25, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi.

Hi. I have no idea how I found your userpage(probably category browsing), but it's probably George's doing. (Well, probably not...) Well, eh...yeah. Hi. And now I shall say ciao for now. Ciao. ØřêōşGo Italia! 13:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC) P.S. Rock music is good for you. :)

Hello. Λυδαcιτγ 13:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

add misdirected spam from George

You are receiving this message, because you signed up to my spamlist

I'm sure many of you who are using monobook have noticed recently an ugly sitenotice saying something about wikimania and scholarships. Well, to remove that, put the following in your monobook.css:

/* REMOVE THAT UGLY SITENOTICE */

#siteNotice {
    display: none;
}

I hope this is of any help to you!

Thanks, --GeorgeMoney T·C 19:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Forgot to sign

Thanks for the nudge. And the ironic smile you gave me. Warofdreams talk 02:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Image

Do you mean to have the image right above another image and the text on the side? --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:13, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I might have an idea on how to do it. lemme test it out. --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it better now? --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, we need more members, and I am planning on importing User:GeorgeMoney/UsefulCSS into it. --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:30, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know=

And thanks for taking care of it - I was in an exam when you left me the message. Viridae 06:02, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

RE:CSS

The reason I want to remove the entire sitenotice instead of only wikimania is because I don't care what's it about, it just really annoys me, and I never want to see a sitenotice again. It is not helpful, because the same info is gonna be on the main page or another popular page. I just don't like any sitenotices, because they just randomly pop up and interrupt things that float there and they underline links. --GeorgeMoney T·C 20:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Forgot to sign

Thanxs for the heads-up! I wasn't too sure if I had to sign for a vandalism warning, so I left it out. You should program a bot that automatically reminds users that forget to sign their comments. Anyways, have fun editing! =) Jumping cheese Contact 04:59, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, quick reply!
Hasta luego. =D Jumping cheese Contact 05:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
¡Hola! Puedo entender solamente un poco español. Quiero aprender mas (that took me forever to type, with the help of Spanish spellcheck). Jumping cheese Contact 05:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The need for CSS

Read separation of style and content. ed g2s • talk 11:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello there

Hi, Audacity, I'm new in Wikipedia and it seems like you are a rather experienced user. So I'm asking you if it's ok for me to turn to you whenever a doubt about userbox wars, or free speech subjects appears. Respectfully. Tehue 15:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Reply from Tehue

Well, first of all, thank you for replying so quickly! Second: sure, I'll help you with your Spanish. I live in Argentina, in Mendoza, so it's "vos" instead of "usted" or "tú". Pero, en general, tenés (instead of "tienes") el idioma Español bien controlado. Gracias por los enlaces, voy a tratar de leerlos lo mas pronto posible. Me conecto a Internet sólo en el trabajo, así que dame tiempo. In regards of what I asked you: I'm very interested in your opinions about those subjects. One must gather different opinions from different sources in order to form an opinion for its own, don't you think? (check my grammar, please!). OK, I think that's all for now. Nos vemos. Tehue 13:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

My dear Audacity

My dear Dan, please allow me to apologize for the very belated reply. I'm a terrible replier these days; my work, but mostly, our activity at the Comanche Nation Center is really taking all my time. Just today, I drove to Lawton for one of the most beautiful Pow-wows I have ever attended; I even took some pics just upload to WP!

Still, it's better late than never, so here I am! Your question reveals uncommon knowledge of the naming issue regarding the terms "Native American", "Indian" and "American Indian". Indeed, the first and second denominations are rather disfavoured among us. Sometime ago, the issue was deeply discussed at different talk pages, and at Ish Ishwar's page to, if I recall correctly. Personally, I use either term when referring in a colloquial way, basically for quick understandment reasons. I am however a declared enemy of hard and unflexible definitions. I always feel it's much more important how you feel about it, not the word that defines your pertenence. If you ask me, I consider myself Numuu, above any other word.

And, regarding the use of titles and names like the one you asked me about, well... it certainly makes you feel disparaged. But I suppose we're not the only ethnic group that suffers from such preconceptions. My own personal POV is that we should focus more in defending our rights and the development and preservation of our cultural resources than worrying about some High Scool mascot. And, before you ask me - no, I don't think the Council of many tribal nations do enough on these matters... at least, I know the Comanche Council doesn't :(

Enough rambling for today! Please, my dear Audacity, I'd love to talk more about these subjects, so please drop by my Talk page whenever you wish. Btw, I've seen you doing a lot of work lately - WTG! Just let me know when you're ready for a go at RfA; you'll have at least one "support" for sure. Big big hug, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 01:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Use of expletives

Let me bother you with a question. Im a little lost on where to go on wikipedia to discuss the language used on this site. To be specific, the use of expletives. Where whould I go to voice my opinion on this topic. ?Thanks Bearingbreaker92 14:00, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch

Bearingbreaker92 03:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

"ADVERTIZING"

Is that the British spelling or something? Λυδαcιτγ 03:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

It's what the OED specifies as the standard spelling, and the most commonly used in the USA. For the record, I'm not British. Stifle (talk) 23:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure? That's definitely a mistake in the OED, since "advertizing" gets only 3.7 million Google hits, compared with 1.87 billion for "advertising". Λυδαcιτγ 03:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I am sure. No, it is not a mistake. It is simply what has become common usage. Words like "presently" (in meaning) and "minuscule" (in spelling) have also been corrupted from their OED spelling. Stifle (talk) 12:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Template issue.

The template for birthdays at the music portal has a few issues I have observed:

  1. The information on the date of death is supposedly optional; however, if only the year is included, the template fails
  2. The Category for Celebrity birthdays is sorting in a rather haphazard fashion — it is neither chronological nor alphabetic

Are these issues that can be fixed? Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 04:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Is there any particular reason you have injected the date information back into the template? It still fails for those who are deceased. The date does not match the subpage date, instead, it lists the current date. (See Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/July_20 for an example of this issue.) Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 02:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
    • The last entry for July 18 fails to render properly. Not sure why, but the error disappears while attempting to edit the article... --Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 01:53, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
      • The issue was rather time-sensitive, as it only appeared improperly on the portal's main page. Like I said earlier, the error did not lend itself to replication, since it goes away during edits or previews. Cheers, Folajimi (leave a note) 00:09, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Reply from 69.81.68.150

Oops, sorry about that. I'll set up some notes, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.81.68.150 (talk • contribs).

Edit counters

Hey hate to bother you again. I noticed that you have an edit count on your page, but how do i get it to work for myself, i cant seem to get it to do anything. It keeps telling me i have some small amount of like 10 edits. I do alot of editing on new pages that often get deleted. I appreicate your help. Bearingbreaker92 03:50, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks

I agree with your comment on my talk page. I am sort of new and I appreciate your explanation and constructive criticism. Patbaseball2221 18:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

RE: Fair use

I know it, I've gotten a few comments on that before, I'ma probably take 'em down sometime, but I don't feel like it yet. --PDTantisocial 05:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Barnstar!

Thank you for your kind barnstar, it made my night just as I was planning to wind down towards bed :) LinaMishima 01:40, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Nelson Lund

Not yet... haven't had con law yet; I've really only met the profs I have in classes so far. why do you ask? Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Strong agnostic. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 20:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Template talk:Verify source

See my note at Template_talk:Verify source. I don't understand that move request at all. Hopefully I'm missing something. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Not at all. :) Jacek Kendysz 13:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Edits to index.php

My apologies for that. I could browse on the normal wikipedia but could not edit; I had to switch to secure.wikimedia.org for that. By trying to splice the URLs from the non-secure one to the secure one, I caused some trouble. --Rifleman 82 05:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Re:"no one is gonna see this page anyway"

Well, NO ONE ELSE is gonna see the page anyway, so the basic idea is the same...

Honestly, I really don't know how many people from the other 4C's we get because our first semester is more or less set for us, and it's probably the same at the other schools, so if there was transferring it probably wouldn't take place until later. That said, I'm pretty sure that there are some people from the other schools in the computer science course I'm taking. Most of the interaction takes place at parties and stuff like that, from what I've seen.

Just if you were curious, my brother is going to Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, by the way.

I don't really have any preferred authors, I just happen to like the genre in general. If I had to name one or two, I like Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke, probably Clarke more I guess. Salur 22:18, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day, Audacity/Archives/Miscellaneous!

Just a day early. Steveo2 11:00, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Mmm...Cake.
Mmm...Cake.
Happy Birthday! Yarr! Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 09:14, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Very happy birth day, and all the best to you. --Bhadani 15:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Princeton Review

you reverted an edit stating that Powerscore isn't a competitor of princeton review, b/c they dont' have a wikipedia article. please go here for the article, i'm bringing it over to the talk section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerscore

64.131.205.160 03:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

if Kaplan is listed, why can't another testing service be listed as a competitor? do you work for princeton review?

Testmasters

I am wondering also why Testmasters cannot have an article on Wikipedia, but The Princeton Review, and Kaplan, Inc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaplan%2C_Inc. both have articles on Wikipedia. This doesn't make sense to me. 64.131.205.160 06:19, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey Audacity!

Thanxs for the pointer about the popups. I'll be sure to follow your advice!
Sorry for not responding to all the Spanish conversation we had (I had problems uderstanding after a while).
Thanks again for the message. ^_^ Jumping cheese Contact 01:38, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

wikEd

The wikEdlogo

Hi, I have seen that you are using the Cacycle editor extension. This program is no longer actively maintained in favor of its much more powerful successor wikEd.

wikEd has all the functionality of the old editor plus:• syntax highlighting • nifty image buttons • morefixing buttons • paste formatted text from Word or web pages• convert the formatted text into wikicode • adjustthe font size • and much, much more.

Switching to wikEd is easy, check the detailed installation description on its project homepage. Usually it is as simple as changing every occurrence of editor.js into wikEd.js on your User:YourUsername/monobook.js page.

Cacycle 21:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help!

Thanks for your help, Dan -- great links to great pages. I'm new to the wiki world ... I like ambigrams, though -- I've made up a few of my own. Just think they're pretty fascinating.

Thanks for your suggestions and help! Ryangibsonstewart 03:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Template

Thanks for the tip! --Fang Aili talk 03:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Images

Would you happen to know where on here I could find some help from some experienced photoshoppers? Im no good with images, and I'd like some help on making my images look alot better.

Thanks

Bearingbreaker92 04:05, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Personal Safety

Mr. Gilles, are you sure that putting your picture and personal details in your profile for anyone to see is an intelligent thing to do? It isn't as bad as doing it on MySpace, but you still have no way to regulate who sees your profile. Then again, as a Libertarian, you aren't a big fan of regulation, are you? ;) --AstoVidatu 04:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

"But I feel like at this point that would be a bit paranoid for me. What do you think?" What do I think? I think a lot of things. First of all, I think that the Iraq War is a waste of time, resources, and, even more precious, life. I think that the fact that the Republicans no longer control both houses and the presidency will benefit the United States. I am frankly worried about Hugo Chavez. I don't mind the fact that he is so powerful right now. Nor do I mind that he is a revolutionary. I think that he is a good leader, and Venezuela has benefitted from his rule. However, I fear, seeing how he is consolidating and trying to ensure his continued power, that the power he sought to make change is corrupting him and that he will be unable to let go of it. The fact that he seeks to make changes so that he can stay in office past 2020 is a danger sign. My other fear is that given his party's domination of Venezuela's offices, there will be no one critical of him with enough power to do anything about it. Although ideally humans can check themselves, as a general rule it is necessary for us to check eachother. This may not be possible in the Venezuela of the future. But I digress. Your question was whether it would be paranoid of you to remove your personal details. To some extent, yes it would be. But then again, I found your ID out, now didn't I? --AstoVidatu 03:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The Princeton Review

You removed my information on employment w/ TPR. This is not promotional--it is informational. Indeed, I worked for TPR, and have no love for the company (they treated me like sh*t). However, I wanted to post an NPOV contribution to information on the company. How is that information spam?

I've reverted it back to my version, by the way. If you have an issue with it, I would ask that you post something in the talk section--if the consensus agrees with you, we can remove it.Jlculp 21:17, 29 December 2006 (UTC)jlculp

Thanks.

Yes, However

Due to the recent amount of vandalism (check the history), I decided to protect it. ---Lazylaces-Helping Wikipedians since.. um.. for almost a year! Lazylaces (talk • contribs 13:41, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

RE:Yes, However

OOO, I didn't know that. Ok thanks! ---Lazylaces-Helping Wikipedians since.. um.. for almost a year! Lazylaces (talk • contribs 12:48, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Question

Do you have to be an administrator to have a BOT? ---Lazylaces-Helping Wikipedians since.. um.. for almost a year! Lazylaces (talk • contribs 13:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hearing

It looks infinitely better than it did back when I tagged it in August and when it was retagged in December. It's very easy to get around the article and understand what I'm reading about. A very good job well done, sir. --MPD T / C 02:48, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...

... for explaining the removal of Robertpetrick's edits on his talk page. I'm not very disciplined when it comes to informing editors about removals and should have done it myself. ---Sluzzelin 19:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:TestTemplatesSmall

Alas, there is no "replacement" for this template yet, my mistake. However, I would encourage the authors of this template to correct old templates (test1, test2, etc.) with the new forms of the template (uw-vandalism1, uq-vandalism2, etc.) to increase awareness of the new templates. However, some templates do not match up exactly, so some creative liberties will have to be taken to create the same template anyway. If there are any discrepancies, I would take it to the talk page of WP:UW. Hopefully that made sense. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 06:54, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I really have no idea on where to put the box. I've copied your message to the talk page of WP:UW, so we'll see where that goes. If I think of any pages where the template might be useful, I'll be sure to add it. Thanks for all of your work! If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 01:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:WarningsUsage

Yes, I am aware that it causes about 8 lines more space to be used. However, it also stops the table from overlapping with the rest of the page . At least in my browser, it was previously impossible to read part of the documentation text due to the floating table. --tjstrf talk 23:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the edit section button is still floating around someplace odd and it looks ugly. --tjstrf talk 23:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

DOB change on user page

FYI. I just wanted to inform you that I changed your DOB year from 1998 to 1988. The reason I did it is that you looked awfully young for someone born in 1998. I was not vandalizing your page. Chris 15:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I was looking at one of the DYKs that was done yesterday and I like to click on the history of the article's edit, then click on the userpage to see what they are like. That was how I saw your page. Chris 02:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Userbox

Thanks for showing me that new userbox. Smart194 19:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: sigContract

Hello!

Please make sure you are using the latest code from here and put the code at the very end of your monobook. Then it should work. (Note that I have only tested it with FireFox). -- Where 18:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Supply and Demand

Hi, Audacity.

Do you have a source for the idea that prices for a product are "determined" by anything other than voluntary choices made by individual buyers and sellers?

Justin and I used the phrase "tend to vary" because the Law of Supply and Demand is not mechanical but is merely a rough description of how a free market works. Many additional forces come into play, and these should be explained in the body of the article.

Monopolies and cartels, protectionist import duties & subsidies, "barriers to entry", tax rates, etc. make the typical "free market" economy somewhat of a mixed economy. --Uncle Ed 15:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


Could you please revisit the reason for renaming the article title and discuss the reasons for renaming the article. That's a pretty bold change, one that I think might be best to discuss before changing. I don't think one reference from the web is sufficient to make that change. Cheers Joel Kincaid 23:12, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Or did you propose the move and someone else actually moved it? Its hard to tell with the indents ... i look at the log diffs. Maybe I was a bit quick on the request, but take a look at the responses and see if you still support the move.....Cheers Joel Kincaid 23:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Indeed I intended to allude to the bold policy. I've posted a long response on the talk page. To keep everyone informed, just respond there if you want. Indeed I do not want to be correcting all those links. It seems easiest to revert to the old article title and discuss. I'll post a comment on taxman's talk as well. Cheers Joel Kincaid 02:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Audacity how are you? Why did you remove my critisism of supply and demand graph's axis? My point is that it is inconvinient and should be changed. Also in your footnote you wrote 'demended' instead of demanded. Thanks kindly -scholodnjak

Your edits to User talk:Gracenotes

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Some of your recent edits, such as those you made to User:Gracenotes, have been considered


...hello :) This is GracenotesT §, responding to your kind note that you left on my talk page. I came across your talk page from informative spam that you left on the talk page of Elaragirl (talk • contribs) using AWB. I then went over to your user page, user talk page, etc, found that you were using the <code> tag, which is implemented in MediaWiki to have code stand out while writing about it in context Like this, although it's not useful for designing and pretty backgrounds, as is <tt>, an HTML tag from days of yore, etc.

I'm glad that you liked the randoms quote function. I changed "s" (which only goes up to 59) to U (which goes up to infinity) here to allow for quotes 61-116.

Finally, nothing much happens in #wikipedia-en-functionaries that I've observed, although it's a relatively new channel. There are 12 people, including me, that have access to it (2 of whom have never been in the channel); plus its two founders and lar, who is a channel operator. As I said, not that active, but like everyone else I hope it'll be a productive channel for discussion of policy and guidelines one day. GracenotesT § 07:12, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


I had to delete it.

I had to delete it because it only has one dot. If you look upside-down, you couldn't see a dot on top! That dot problem is rude for people. So no reverting, okay?
----Invader SoapEvil JokesGir's DogFebruary 10th, 2007 (UTC)

AfD Progressive Bloggers

You have edited the article Progressive Bloggers. This article is currently being considered for deletion under the wp:afd process. You may contribute to this discussion by commenting here. Thank you.Edivorce 23:23, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


Tlx vs Tl

I'm not sure you're going to keep this one -- one of the reasons tlx came about was to show an expanded format, see the talk towards the bottom just this past 6th about problems with one browser. More to the point, see {{tlx/doc}} and the early line in the section "Documentation" (Caution: the top para is self-documentation, and tracking inside a noinclude block, not usage for the templates!) saying:

"...is a generalization of {{Tl|x}}, {{Tlp|x|y}}, etcetera with arguably better readable output. This depends on the browser, but too narrow uses of "{", "|", "}" in conjunction with links can be hard to read."

so I conjecture you may be fighting "City hall" <g>.

Maybe add a parameter "no" so define two uses inside tlx: {{{no|<tt>}}} ... tlx guts ... {{{no|</tt>}} and write a front end TlX which calls {{tlx|no= |...}} ? Then you can have your cake with the price of capital letter, and City Hall has theirs too. Best wishes! // FrankB 05:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

re: "Well, if someone really wants to keep it as it was I won't make a big deal. Still, I should think that if you're going to make a change for readability, you would make it for all the templates; and since {{[[Template:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]]}} came first, it should be the trendsetter. But I can always do what you said for both tl and tlx, or make some new ones (tl2 and tlx2). Λυδαcιτγ 05:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)"

Well, tl is as basic as they come, and clearly YOUR young eyes don't have the issues Mine do! <G> I wasn't complaining... I'm an inclusionist. If someone finds a tool useful, then let them have it... they (we are all) are donating time, and most processors are sitting around for the data stream to feed them, not overburdened. Tokens go into their internal cache in all likihood, so should not be any kind of performance issue even if the page had hundreds of extra templates of similar size. Shrug.

I was just letting you know that someone may be bitching about the change, or at least reverting it. Not my style, though personally I probably prefer the tt'd version--really haven't compared them side by side. As my concerns are with WP:TSP, I'm a tad annoyed that such an old template is showing so much edit activity. At the least it's not doing lowercase first anymore! That change went down in flames pretty quick (see the talk and the history). You may want to monitor the talk page though. If you're not up to anything in particular, a tool of mine for interwiki needs some votes on tfd. See {{w2c}} Cheers! I'm off again to Meta! // FrankB 05:31, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Hope your trip is going well. You may be interested in this and it's /doc page. Cheers! // FrankB 06:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Delete it or not???

So, if "Wiki" isn't an ambigram, you would turn upside-down and you won't see an another dot! Very Cheap!
----Invader SoapEvil JokesGir's DogFebruary 13th, 2007 (UTC)

Re: Identification

To preserve my anonymity, I'd rather not be identified. But if you have to... --JianLi 00:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Commons identity

I am commons:User:Audacity (for Commons:Picture of the Year/2006). Λυδαcιτγ 03:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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