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[edit] Height

"Although only 5'5" tall, Audie Murphy fought in World War II with such courage..." Doesn´t this imply that you´re unlikely to be courageous if you´re short? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.210.23.124 (talk) 16:10, 24 June 2004 (UTC)

No. He was rejected by the Marine Corp for being too small. What it says is that even though Murphy wasn't a large man, he was a great man. Stargoat 00:29, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Maybe that should be made more pronounced than it currently is? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.210.23.124 (talk) 12:32, 25 June 2004 (UTC)

He was also denied enlistment into the airborne infantry as unfit for the combat requirements deemed necessary and essential for airborne duty due to his physical size.

[edit] Broken link

Can someone check the link to Medal of Liberated France? When I click on it from Audie Murphy's list of medals, it goes straight into the "Edit" page and does not redirect to the proper article. Perhaps a bug? User:Husnock 9 Jul 2004

[edit] Add description of actions

Can someone maybe add to this what exactly Murphy did to earn all his medals and decorations? I think I remember reading it somewhere, and it would add alot to the article. Maybe I'll look into it if no one else does, but it's be better to have someone more familiar with the subject write it. -R. fiend 06:47, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Rank at end of war

Does someone know his rank at the end of the war? From the picture I assume he's either a 1st or 2nd lieutenant, but I can't find out which. -Norway Boy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.93.225.115 (talk) 15:49, 7 February 2005 (UTC)

He was a second lieutenant at the conclusion of World War II.

[edit] Deleted unsourced statement

I deleted "He was also accused of being a pedophile." I could find nothing on Google which supports this accusation, and I asked the poster to verify it, but they did not reply. John Barleycorn 18:51, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Death site edit

A year or so ago, this site erroneously stated his fatal crash was near Norfolk. I changed it to "near Roanoke". Someone later edited that it was "near Galax, outside of Roanoke" (paraphrased).

Audie's plane did not go down near Galax. Rather, it was near Catawba. The site is *near* 37.351°N, 80.251°W (not exact!), within a mile of the Craig, Roanoke, and Montgomery County junction. Galax is about 60 miles away.

I also added the mountain's name - Brush Mountain. Appalachian's mountains are really mountain ridges, and names are often given to an entire ridge as opposed to specific peaks. This is the case for Brush Mountian.

I have seen one mention (http://www.roanoke.com/outdoors/hiking/1143.html) that the plane was en route to Martinsville, Virginia, but could not verify this. The story in the link is about hiking, not specifically Audie's death or its circumstances, thus I am skeptical of the fact-checking in that article.

see also http://www.audiemurphy.com/roanoke.htm

While I was at it, I added that there was a marker near the crash site. I used the above external link as well. I felt that this was more of a "Death" category mention instead of a "Honors" category mention. July 31, 2005 7PM EDT —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.15.140.106 (talk)

[edit] Rumors of Murphy's behavior

I had also heard a rumor about AM being a pedophile, but when I went to look into it I couldn't find anything of the sort. Until I really get a gritty biography of the man, I'd say it's probably a VERY twisted misinterpretation/ rumor without basis. I did find that he had had a couple of assault charges, I imagine during the period he was struggling with PTSD. The page also went on to make the statement that being trained and experienced as a combatant had effect on his behavior outside of the military. I don't have the link handy unfortunately. November 26, 2005 8PM C (+3 GMT) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.5.196.22 (talk)

Such allegations about someone needs to be researched, cited by some substantial source. Make sure it's not some funky Web site proclaiming that it has the "truth". --speedoflight | talk to me 17:04, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
Another example of the Gay Lobby in action. This can be found throughout Wikipedia. Yes, they want to insinuate that every prominant person was gay, thereby legitimizing unnatural behavior.Lestrade 18:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Lestrade

[edit] "Recipient", not "winner"

"the tombstones of Medal of Honor winners" -- I keep seeing this all over this reference site. You do not "win" the Medal of Honor! Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen, Cost Guardsmen, and in one known case a civilian, are "recipients" of this award. This, in all actuallity, is how all awards or decorations should be referred to.

68.100.161.83 23:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changed URL

changed URL for trivia about 'to hell and back' from reference to rock album of the same name back to correct reference - andy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.72.148.102 (talk) 02:08, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

We may agree with this, but it's very POV:

"One also must question Eisenhower's authority to make such a statement, since he never served in combat himself." Brainhell 03:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added info on parents

Added some information on Murphy's mom and dad,

L.J. Brooks 01:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rank

What for rank he have? Murderman 13:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

He went up through the ranks, from private to the commissioned rank of 1st lieutenant at the end of World War II and major during later National Guard service.--Buckboard 10:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] amused

well, he was a high mason - anyone have a theoretical view of why his plane crashed? (ANY time a plane crash is the cause of a death of someone famous - i'm reminded that congress has the highest mortality rate of any profession - usually from plane crashes)

my research is masonry... and for good reason. you watch 'the Legend of Zoro'? ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.61.213.37 (talk) 20:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copied

Some of this is copied from another page! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.177.12.188 (talk) 09:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article has no sources

I don't see much references/sources. So I have added a unsourced tag at the top as well as one for original research. ResurgamII 18:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I added several links to other wikipedia pages, but have noticed there is no standard on CMH references in wikipedia. Since they generally have the same format, should there be a uniform format? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Autkm (talk • contribs) 21:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
It needs references and not just links to other articles or web sites. Surely there must be some published references that can be added. What parts do you consider original research? Is it the parts with weasel words? Someone should really work on getting this article untagged. Remember that tags are meant as an encouragement, not something permanent. MartinDK 08:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You shouldn't be in pictures

I deleted this. The bio box already has a pic, with the Medal, so I don't see a particular need for another. Image:Photo audiemurphy.jpg Trekphiler 14:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medal of Honor

There is a difference between the Medal of Honor and the Congressional Medal of Honor. The article says he received the latter from the army, though in reality he received the former. Check the articles on the two awards for clarification. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 132.199.225.154 (talk) 20:18, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

There is only one U.S. award with the title "Medal of Honor." It is often referred to as the Congressional Medal of Honor because it is the only award that requires congressional oversight. The award is only ever referred to as the Medal of Honor in military manuals and regulations. All of these documents are open to the public and available for download if you want to check. PvtDeth 05:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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