Talk:Auckland International College

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[edit] Edits Mr Bluefin 00:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Edits have been made to make the article sound neutral and to remove the pro-AIC tone of this article.

In particular:

  • IB Diploma. It is true that its not common in NZ (let alone anywhere else). But specifics on the IB can be found on the IB page. After all you don't say on an individual school page that A2s are taken after ASes; that stuff does not belong.
  • This page is to explain the school, and not the IBD. Information on who can do what, if not already explained on the IB page, is not encyclopaedic, since its a bit like describing a canteen list etc. CAS, Extended Essay, subject groups etc are all on the IB page.
  • Details on Pre-IB kept since its different for each school.
  • Don't take other school pages as a model. The larger NZ school pages tend to be poorly written and full of unnecessary detail.
  • Data reduncancy: Links to TKI and the school are already summarised in the infobox, so it doesn;t need to be repeated. Just a reminder, the point of the infobox is to present raw data in a way that does not need to be interpreted for the reader, and if it presents the school in a not-so-rosy light, then so be it. After all, notable schools will already have been regarded as such and its no Le Rosey.
  • Other IB school pages do not encumber themselves with details of the IB.
  • Wikipedia is not a soapbox. It is absolutley not a school prospectus.

Mr Bluefin 00:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Omission of Business in Group 3: While it is a fact, it is not encyclopaedic. Its like saying there are n number of buildings on campus --- it is a fact but not directly relevant to the understanding of the institution. As I said above, this is not a school prospectus.
This is not to say I have anything against the school. Actually I'm quite impressed that in less than 5 years the school has an impressive overseas university admit record :D Mr Bluefin 11:37, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Although I agree with most of what you said, I do not think there was a pro-AIC tone in the article. There was a description of the school's curriculum. It might have gone into more depth than necessary (eg. the IBD details) but certainly its purpose was not to promote the school. I saw the links now. Thank you :) By the way, I have a question (cuz I am quite new here) how do I know when you respond to this message? I already clicked on "watch this page" but I am not sure how that would help. Would there be a reminder or I have to remind myself to check this talk page? Cheers, --Le Ha Giang 12:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Apologies, it was probably a mistake on my part then. I'm not a perfect editor :D Resposnes to messages: Everyone has their own different way of responding to messages. I responded on my own talk page but some respond on the other's talk page. I decided to put it on my own page without a pointer on your talk page because your talk page was a clean sheet and thought it was like that for some reason unknown to me (usually I alert the other person some way or another on their talk page). So yeah, pretty much the only way you know is to watch the talk pages. BTW, when someone leaves a message on your talk, an orange box appears next time you load a page from Wikipedia. Cheers Mr Bluefin 02:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Further edits have been made to make the information added by an anonymous IP more suitable. For a start while it is true that AIC has a strong overseas university admit record (as I noted on this page above), this article is NOT the place to put the information. Overseas admit records is 100% prospectus-type information.
The entire criticism section has been cut because of the massive amount of weasling going on---no names, no sources to back up assertions, etc (see the weasling link for why such information should not be on WP). Any information on this topic needs to be sourced, e.g. newspaper. Paragraphs written by the students should be taken with a grain of salt since they obviously have a bias (even if they do not themselves feel one)---a bias of being a student.
"According to a former student of AIC…": This is NOT the place for original reporting. In the absence of an external news source, this information has been deleted.
"Critics argue…" is a classic case of weasling, which is frowned upon. This has been deleted.
However if there are citable news articles on the "unsociable nature" of AIC or AIC's strictness wrt curriculum then by all means add it.
Anyone planning to add information to this article in the future should note that no original research is allowed on Wikipedia and must strictly keep to external sources. Further it is recommended that if you are a student at the school, that you refrain from editing this article.
Mr Bluefin 09:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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