Talk:Aubrey de Grey

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Anonymous user 210.187.136.223, congratulations, your editing tests have worked. Continue such tests, and, under the discretion of Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress, your domain may be blocked. --Nectarflowed 23:57, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

--I changed the 7 symptoms into a numbered list... Looks clearer.

Contents 1 seven causes 2 picture source 3 Clarification of Aubrey de Grey's status at Cambridge 4 Edits by 130.209.6.40 5 Association with Cambridge

[edit] seven causes

Yeah, that looks better. However, the causes themselves are copied verbatim from the source. I can't tell if they are an excerpt from a paper of some sort by De Grey, as they are in a box next to the interview. Perhaps a rewording of each to avoid copyright infringement?

Could you please state the source for these "7 causes" in the article more clearly? It's not apparent from the article whether this is scientific consensus or a theory by de Grey.--Biologos 18:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I have added "according to Aubrey de Grey" to the subheading, that should do the trick.--Biologos 21:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

These are not causes but categories of aging damage. De Grey believes that fixing all seven types of damage equals rejuvenation. It's not his list! The 7 types of damage are well known since over 20 years http://www.sens.org/just7.htm. What's important and specific to De Grey is that he states that all these are fixable. And by fixing all of them, not just a few we will be able to live in a near perfect condition (typical to a 20-25year old healthy human body ) as long as we wish, like vintage cars and machines. I'd suggest rewriting the paragraph. Also check Senescence#Reliability_theory Leba123 21:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

It is de Grey's list. The link http://www.sens.org/just7.htm is his webpage. Those types of damage have all been known for decades, sure, but it his idea, that by fixing these and only these 7, "we will be able to live in a near perfect condition". I have changed the subheading to "The seven types of aging damage, as proposed by de Grey". --Biologos 17:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] picture source

three's a free picture source for him at [1], why was the original removed? --Procrastinating@^talk2me 14:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

It is hard to document when the picture was removed, but this link [2] may indicate the reason if no one vouched for the file. I will see if I can handle it. --GirlForLife 16:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

I have uploaded the file. The deletion log is here [3] and I am hoping that "fair use" is the right category [4] --GirlForLife 16:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification of Aubrey de Grey's status at Cambridge

In the interests of accuracy I thought it would be useful to clarify that De Grey is neither a member of faculty at Cambridge University nor, as far as I can dtermine, any other university. I edited this article to this effect, including his current occupation and that his work in gerontology is on a part-time basis. It appears that these facts have been edited out from the article and I was wondering why. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.63.242.219 (talk) 16:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

I have been in personal e-mail communication with Aubrey de Grey concerning the accuracy of the information about him in this article, and this has been the basis of the corrections I have made. Aubrey no longer is associated with the Genetics Department (he was in charge of software development and not simply a technician), but he now devotes himself to biogeronotolgy on a full-time basis. The edit "information" by 130.63.242.219 was not only inaccurate and derogatory, but out-dated. --Ben Best 17:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by 130.209.6.40

130.209.6.40 has deleted the information about Dr. de Grey's FlyBase responsibilities in the Genetics Department of Cambridge University for no good reason that I can see. This information clarifies much of the confusion some people have about Dr. de Grey's connection to Cambridge University. I have reverted this edit. 130.209.6.40 has also added a comment concerning Dr. de Grey being a researcher at CIRCA (Cambridge Interdisciplinary Research Centre on Aging). I have been in e-mail communication with Dr. de Grey about this and he tells me that CIRCA is an informal group at Cambridge to whom he has lectured, but he is not a researcher there or formally associated. Admittedly, the CIRCA website is misleading (Aubrey says that he will seek to have this corrected), so 130.209.6.40 cannot be blamed for making this misinterpretation. I am reverting that edit also, not with ill-will, but with a desire for accuracy. I hope that 130.209.6.40 will be understanding concerning this matter. --Ben Best 18:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Association with Cambridge

The reason for deleting the reference to Cambridge is that it is misleading. Were Dr. de Grey working and living in Stoke-on-Trent I very much doubt whether this information would be included. The prominent placement of Cambridge in the opening of the bio makes an association with Cambridge University, at which Dr. de Grey was a student and an employee. This work was in a non-faculty position and as a software developer the title of which seems less relevant than the fact that this was not in a research capacity relevant to gerontology. I am also having problems in identifying the nature of Dr. de Grey's PhD (or his masters, which is curisouly absent from the bio). The reference cited for this here is a web page for Cambridge University, but Trinity Hall appear to have no record of him being engaged in doctoral research there though they do say he was awarded his PhD from "Cambridge". Anyone have any information on this? The credibility of anyone's ideas rests to some extent on their qualifications and experience. Including irrelevant and potentially misleading information as to a scientist's status and past work would seem to be the kind of thing which a bio in general and a Wiki page in particular should seek to avoid. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.63.242.219 (talk) 17:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC).