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[edit] Natural History of South Asia mailing list
This Conservation & India related Article is being considered for deletion, kindly have a look when you have some time, Wikipedia is taking Votes for Deleting it or Keeping it, please do improve the article if possible:
Bold textRelisted after first Deletion Review for Second time as AFD, Votes being taken for Deletion or Keep.
- First Deletion Review, Please clisk on "SHOW" against the article name.
- First time around at AFD - Article for Deletion
Thanks Atulsnischal 12:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Natural History of South Asia mailing list: A proposal
Hi Atul, from what I can see the article on nathistory India cannot possibly ever make for encyclopaedic content. However there is a way to incorporate and highlight the role of the group and the ideal place would be to place it within the History of conservation in India article as a section on the contribution of the Internet era. Hope this is fine with you. Cheers. Shyamal 11:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Shyamal
You are welcome to change your Vote :), but it is only one vote, there is no need to panic, you might want to save a work copy of the article though in case it is deleted and hidden again.
As for me I believe it is encyclopedic, I will like the article to stay as it is.
But you have a very very good point, you can also always do what you propose above, great and a fitting idea in itself. So I suggest NO Delete And Merge, Keep the article as it is, yet have a section on the contribution of the list in other major conservation articles on India and elsewhere.
Exactly as you say it should be also mentioned in the Contributions of the Internet Era to the Natural History and the Conservation of the region.
As for me I firmly believe it is encyclopedic in itself to have a article on this South Asian Natural History Network.
Thanks for your input
Atulsnischal 11:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Comment. Two things. First, I would feel more comfortable if you maintained a user page. The idea of the red link to nowhere is disconcerting. Second, it is the Natural History of South Asia that is encyclopedic; not the mailing list addressing same. The mailing list might be included in a broader article that deals with the Natural History of South Asia. Bluestripe 22:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Like you suggested, I wrote a few lines on my user page, instead of leaving it blank or as a redlink, when you get time can you kindly help me Archive my talk page, please do it anytime you get time. Thanks. As for the mailing list I firmly think it is a pioneering example from the region and is hugely notable and hence Encyclopedic :-) Atulsnischal 23:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- I learned about archiving by visiting User:Werdnabot/Archiver/Howto. Hope this helps. Good luck with your review. Remember, you catch more bees with honey. Bluestripe 23:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Like you suggested, I wrote a few lines on my user page, instead of leaving it blank or as a redlink, when you get time can you kindly help me Archive my talk page, please do it anytime you get time. Thanks. As for the mailing list I firmly think it is a pioneering example from the region and is hugely notable and hence Encyclopedic :-) Atulsnischal 23:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kuno Wildlife Sanctuary
--Mel Etitis (Talk) 16:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Archives
Atul, you are creating the archives at the wrong places. Archives of this talk page should be placed at User talk:Atulsnischal/archive 1 type links, but you are creating them at User talk:Atulsnishchal archive 1, which actually means the talk page for the non-existent user named "Atulsnishchal archive 1". I've moved some of the misplaced archives, please move the rest to proper places.
In other words, create subpages by appending a / after your talk page link. Thanks. --Ragib 02:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Archives: Copied and pasted the whole Archives thing from this page: User talk:RaveenS, seems to have worked out fine. Atulsnischal 02:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Well, please read Wikipedia:Subpages. If you copied it verbatim from RaveenS's page, then that usage is also in violation of the subpage guidelines. This is a friendly advice to you. Thanks. --Ragib 05:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Looks like User talk:RaveenS is doing it incorrectly too. David D. (Talk) 08:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Guys thankyou for your kind advice, I will like to be left alone please, when I need help I will ask (Others) ;-) Atulsnischal 10:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that you misunderstand. They are trying to be kind, yes, and in a way it's advice — but you were doing something wrong, wihtout realising it. One can only ask for advice or help if one realises that it's needed; you didn't. (But, as I see that you're still not giving edit summaries, you clearly have a bad attitude to advice.) --Mel Etitis (Talk) 11:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your advice on Edit Summaries, I have a problem with above two users, not with everybody. Atulsnischal 11:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC) I have even complained before about these two :-) Atulsnischal 11:12, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I had no idea you had a problem with me. I have tried to be contructive with your articles and made many edits to try and improve them. What exactly is it you do not like? byt he way the archive are better now they are in your own user space. I see RaveenS has improved his/hers too. David D. (Talk) 17:02, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- The Archiving has worked out just fine, it may have thrown off some unintended pages during first time I pressed "Show Preview", if the final form all fell in place, everything is working fine, I dont contribute so much to have gone in for Robotic / Bot automatic Archiving Software application yet. Atulsnischal 11:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Ragib & David D. thanks for your help with Archiving and with your undoing changes to the articles I worked on, maybe indeed it is good editing on your part to make the articles better (I personally dont think removing the reference list from articles which make them more credible is a good idea, it is like vandalism, anyway I have let go), maybe I am wrong maybe you are just trying to help, well no grudges, Happy Editing :) Atulsnischal 13:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Archives
Hi Atul - your talkpage archives needed some fixing, which as an administrator, I have undertaken. Please don't be offended. The issue of the archiving format problem was raised by respected editors and you should have listened to them. They are not trying to offend you. Rama's arrow 13:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for the help. Atulsnischal 14:19, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] World Heritage template
Hi! I created a template for World Heritage Sites: {{Infobox World Heritage Site}}. Since many protected areas tend to overlap with World Heritage-designated places, will it be possible to re-format the template in the same way as the Level 1, 2, 3... style? In that way, we can prevent too many infoboxes showing repetitive infos. In terms of its relationship with the IUCN protected areas, I found a link: http://whc.unesco.org/cairns/iucn-priorities.pdf (refer to page 15 of this publication/page 17 of the pdf file). Hope you can help in improving the template and making it more relevant to readers. Thanks. Joey80 13:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Natural History of South Asia mailing list
Are you a member of this mailing list? Chris cheese whine 12:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
What all are you a member of, what is your religion, which god you like, who is your politicle star :)?????
Atulsnischal 12:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes I am from India and like nature and want to conserve it, yes I am a member of this Network, it has been a helpful forum assisting in conservation. Atulsnischal 13:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. It is generally considered to be a Bad Thing to be editing articles about things we are directly involved in. In future, please refrain from editing the article directly, but you are welcome to propose further changes on the talk page of the article. Chris cheese whine 13:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thankyou, you are wrong, I am also an Indian, so shall i stop editing articles about India, By the way the article went through a deletion debate, I made my position clear there to all administrators. Also lot of people like to write about what they like and strongly feel about. Please avoid phycing other Wikipedia Users in future and stop to try and get to personal details of others and their orientation. STOP IT:) Atulsnischal 13:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Being Indian is non-specific (it's you and a billion other people). Being a member of this list is pretty specific. It only got through the deletion debate as a result of the bogus references. Do not make further edits to this article. You are also on the brink of violating WP:3RR, as you have reinserted the bad info three times now. Chris cheese whine 13:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Can you please stop vadalising the article. If you like it I will leave it to othersAtulsnischal 13:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Nobody is vandalising the article. Go learn what vandalism is before accusing other people of the same. Chris cheese whine 00:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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- This comment was in response to your trolling the talk page:
- Atul, please refrain from calling edits vandalism. You have done this in the past ... and have been warned for that. Chris has cited the Conflict of Interest policy, which is a valid one. Thanks. --Ragib 16:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- Chris cheese whine 00:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
- This comment was in response to your trolling the talk page:
[edit] Archiving
Here you appeared to replace the content of your talk page with the content of one of your archives. I get the feeling that wasn't quite intended. ;-) Chris cheese whine 12:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Edits to Deletion Review and talk pages
This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia processes, as you did at Wikipedia:Deletion review, you will be blocked from editing. Chris cheese whine 02:56, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Excuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, helllooooooooooooooooooooo what are you talking about """"DISRUPT""""", quite a MMMAAADD SCIENTIST YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!
Atulsnischal 03:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
You have been manupulatiing Wikipedia Pages by selectively taking out and blanking my legitimate comments calling it Trolling, including from your own talk page, everytime I leave a comment you blank it out.
Atulsnischal 03:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Just for everybodies reference I am providing here the previous deletion debates for Natural History of South Asia mailing list, this Wikipedia Article passed these DELETION DEBATE ALREADY
- Another relisting to Afd (Articles for Deletion) "Step - 5 of Deletion Review."
- Listed another time for Deletion Review as some felt the references to the Article are Bogus, again this article passed and went on to be relisted at Afd (Articles for Deletion) "Step - 4 of Deletion Review."
- Final Version of this Article that passed the Deletion Debate
This Conservation and India & South Asia related Wikipedia Article had been nominated for deletion as some felt this Natural History of South Asia mailing list / "Natural History Network" is not notable enough to deserve an article on Wikipedia, to the contrary Wikipedia did not find any reason to delete this article and Restored it. For those interested and for a general record, provided here are the links to the deletion debates which this article passed:
- Relisted after first Deletion Review for Second time as AFD, Second detailed AFD Debate result was that the Article indeed merits a place on Wikipedia. "Step - 3 of Deletion Review."
- First Deletion Review after first AFD debate decided to delete, Please click on "SHOW" against the article name to see the full deletion review debate. "Step - 2 of Deletion Review."
- First time around at AFD (Articles for Deletion). "Step - 1 of Deletion Review."
Thanks Atulsnischal 03:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Atul, you are making false claims once again. The 1st AFD resulted in Delete, the 2nd AFD actually resulted in no consensus, and NOT keep. The only reason a lot of the users were misled was because you had inserted a bunch of fake references, and claimed they "cite" the list. --Ragib 04:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No personal attacks
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Ragib 16:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Ragib 16:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, you have reached limits by now .... Please stop. --Ragib 16:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Reported
I have reported your violation of 3RR. Please take the time of your upcoming block to go through the policies of Wikipedia and be calm. I hope you will come back once your coming block expires and make constructive edits (unlike the personal attacks and rants posted above). Thank you. --Ragib 17:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Advice
I'm sincerely sorry to see you get blocked, but you should take the time to learn about Wikipedia's policies about editing, conflicts etc. This is not really a battleground. That I voted against an article in an AFD doesn't mean I have something against you personally. If others do not think an article is suitable, and they back them with proper arguments, you shouldn't feel frustrated, nor feel that everyone is against you.
Anyway, I hope you will return and continue your good work on conservation related topics ....
Thanks. --Ragib 19:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Disruption
Why do you feel the need to post that very same piece of text which has been considered a personal attack on WP:AN ([1])? Please refrain from being disruptive, thanks. x42bn6 Talk 17:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Blocked
John Reaves (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Atul, good to see you back after the hiatus. Hopefully, you'll have a great time in contributing to wild-life related topics. Thanks. --Ragib 17:21, 6 April 2007 (UTC)