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[edit] ass slop

Gosh, is it ever dissapointing to see the bit about the building's ass-slop nickname dissapear. the term is widely used amongst many of the senior art students attending the school currently. Would anyone be able to explain why it was edited out?

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Douglas Lowry is in fact a candidate. Please check http://app.toronto.ca/vote2006/listAddress.do before vandalizing an addition. Tam Goosen is supposed to be withdrawing from Ward 20 Council race as part of an agreement she made with Helen Kennedy before the May 23rd. nomination meeting.

[edit] Scarborough

Atrian

Thanks for your message - I predict exactly the same thing, which is why I spent a good deal of time this morning looking for citations for the issue - such makes it far more difficult for him to try to keep it off the page. WilyD 22:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Sandor

RE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Sandor

The docs regarding Toronto City Council passing the motion are to be found here:

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2006/agendas/council/cc060329/nomj(1).pdf

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2006/agendas/council/cc060329/cofa.pdf (page 18 of the document / Page 21 in pdf format indicates council adopting motion)

First Reading in the House hasn't happened, therefore in seems no info is yet available.

[edit] Saryn Hooks

You participated in the Finola Hackett AfD. Please also join the discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saryn Hooks (second nomination). Thank you. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio info

Hi Atrian. When you tag an article as a copyvio, you should complete the process by following the instructions at the top of the notice. Specifically, for Cardinal Newman Catholic Secondary School you should have added an entry in Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2006 June 19. Otherwise, the page remains as you left it indefinitely, or until someone notices it. I've added this one to today's copyvio listing. Mind matrix 15:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Contract bridge

Hi. You might be interested in participating in new Wikipedia:WikiProject Contract bridge. Regards, Duja 10:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elizabeth May (environmentalist)

Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors. See Wikipedia:Assume good faith for the guidelines on this. Ardenn 03:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toronto municipal election, 2006

As a you were listed in the edit history of the article, I wanted to pass along a comment I added to the talk page which may be of interest. — MrDolomite | Talk 03:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Avenue Road

You're right that my earlier comment about the naming of Avenue Road was unsubstantiated. I have now provided a substantiated version and removed the unsubstantiated assertion that the name is unusual. My authority is the Collins M25 London Master Street Atlas which lists many streets with this name. Of course we may be using different meanings of unusual; if so that needs to be clarified before further revisions are made. John FitzGerald 13:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Got your message. Will do. John FitzGerald 18:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I put the citation in. When I get the time I'll figure out just how many Avenue Roads there are in London – there are about three inches of map references to Avenue Roads in the atlas, but some may refer to the dsame street appearing on different pages (I haven't found any duplicates yet, but I haven't worked my way through all of them). Some other citations are needed in the article, too – for example, the source of the quotation from Robert Fulford. The whole question of the unusualness of the name needs to be handled in a more wikilike way, too. I replaced an unsourced assertion that the name was unusual with an unsourced assertion that some people find it unusual. A safe enough assertion, that last one, but the question is whether the unusualness of the name needs to be mentioned at all if it's not really unusual. Again it depends what unusual means, I suppose. John FitzGerald 18:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

And I just noticed that the article said Avenue Road was an extension of University although they don't meet. So I corrected that with a citation.

Should mention I'm what you call a quiet environmentalist, too. Paid for it over the last few days, but it's worth it. I realize environmentalism has to go beyond the personal, but it has to start with the personal. John FitzGerald 18:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Yep, I was using fans a lot the last few days. My non-personal environmental activities are pretty much non-existent at the moment – I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have. One thing that might interest me is an environmental organization whcih is organized in chapters, rather than the centralized ones which dominate the field and in which your chief activity is writing cheques. John FitzGerald 19:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. if you could recommend some organizations I'd appreciate it. John FitzGerald 14:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, again. Yes, I do live in TO (beautiful midtown), so suggestions about organizations would be helpful. You've also given me some ideas about organizations to look into. Thanks.

Secondly, I was wondering about whether Avenue Road should include any longer the discussion of the name's oddity, given that it's definitely not an unusual name elsewhere (if you haven't checked the article recently, I found 40 [forty] in London, mainly very short residential streets, but Avenue Roads all the same). I realize that some people do consider it odd, though. For the moment I'm assuming it will stay in. I've been looking for a citation for Robert Fulford's remark, without success. However, he's pretty approachable by e-mail, so I can always go to the source. John FitzGerald 15:20, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the list. I've also found a couple of local organizations that look interesting. John FitzGerald 15:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hono(u)rs

Atrian, I'm well aware that "honours" is an alternative spelling, and I'm perfectly willing to acknowledge "honors" as the variant. And I spent some time stressing over whether to delete the "(u)". After a look at the Wiki (not specifically the contract bridge) style manual, I decided to strike it for a couple of reasons: I find the insertion of the parenthetical "u" visually jarring, and the manual advises against two different spellings on the same page. So, if we want to comply with that advice, we'd have to spell it "hono(u)rs" throughout, and I really doubt we want to do that. And then what of colo(u)rs? and favo(u)rs? and ardo(u)r?

Fowler's Modern English Usage says, "Those who are willing to put national prejudice aside and examine the facts soon realize, first, that the British -our words are much fewer in proportion to the -or words than they supposed, and, secondly, that there seems to be no discoverable line between the two sets so based on principle as to serve any useful purpose."

I've left your recent revision as is, but I think that we should let "honour" go the way of "governour." Xlmvp 15:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 16:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huntsville and Lake of Bays Transportation Company

Regardless if the company Huntsville and Lake of Bays Transportation Company expired or not, it was a different company formed in 1902 that built the Huntsville and Lake of Bays Railway which did not begin actual operations until 1904. I never had the chance to ride the original railway at Lake of Bays (Ontatio). Having a long time interest in railways and steamboats, I had only heard of the railway about 1969. From 1971 I was a volunteer on the Segwun Steamboat Museum. In 1972 I met Niall MacKay, who knew a lot about the railway. At that time he was collecting information for his book "By Steam Boat And Steam Train." I have been good friends with him ever since, and his brother and mom and dad too. In 1984 I was living in Parry Sound, Ontario and working as a Railroad car mechanic for North America's best Railway, at South Parry and Huntsville, Ontario, when we formed the Huntsville & Lake of Bays Railway Society. I am Life Member # 6. That same year I drove to Pioneer Village (Nebraska) at Minden, Nebraska where I met with Harold Warp and presented to him a copy of Mr. MacKay's book (at my expense). Until then there was nothing in the museum to suggest that the H. K. Porter, Inc locomotives came from Lake of Bays. Meanwhile back at Huntsville, I designed the front of the gasoline locomotive, and purchased, re-gaged and restored the Handcar. I also suggested the use of retired Excavator machinery for the base of the turntables now in use at the railway in Huntsville.Wrecksdale Wreck 01:25, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of bus route info

Hey man, I just said that you shouldn't be deleting those pages without any reason. I did not delete the Afd tags yet. No one has provided any support for deleting them. If no one does within a week, I am within my rights to delete those tags. I am the only person who has written anything on those talk pages. Either way if no one speaks then I will assume my voice will speak the loudest. I am not going to stand by and watch good articles that promote public transit use be deleted by certain "elements" who think they own this site. Also, you stated in your posting on my page, that you will ignore my opinion. That really is not fair seeing as you have not supported your choice to delete. My opinion does count. And by the way... other people have supported me. You are not the czar of this site, if that's what you think. Please be careful about saying you will ignore people. Nlsanand 02:06, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright that's cool. Everyone seems to be against me, so I guess I gotta go along with it. I didn't even know there was an arbitration. Dont really like the result...but I am only one man. Just a better one, jk :) Nlsanand 19:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Boat or Ship?

A Steamship is something I think about the size of RMS Titanic or the RMS Mauritania. The Mississippi paddle wheelers were considered to be steamboats and they were a lot bigger than the S S Algonquin. Generally the rule is that a ship can carry a boat, but a boat cannot carry a ship, however, in this case I am more comfortable with Steamboat.

The article deals with three different companies by name:

Huntsville and Lake of Bays Transportation Company,

Huntsville and Lake of Bays Navigation Company, and

Huntsville and Lake of Bays Railway Company.

Why then wouldn't you list each one on an idividual page? Then you could present each one in chronological order, and also link each page with WIKI LINKS where the other title is mentioned within an article. Also the Huntsville & Lake of Bays Railway can be listed in such categories as Defunct railway companies of Canada or Portage railway without including the steamboat information, but still linked to it.

Keep in mind that although the Huntsville and Lake of Bays Railway proposed by Huntsville and Lake of Bays Transportation Company, was chartered as a separate company, and that although the railway was built by the Huntsville & Lake of Bays (and Lake Simcoe) Navigation Company, this was after the Transportation Company ceased to exist, so why is the railway shown on the same page as the Transportation Company?

Wrecksdale Wreck 05:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Boat or Ship? I reworked the article to improve readability. I changed the boldface to italics for the additional company names. This is in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines to use boldface for the article name only. I tend to use steamship and steamboat interchangeably however I suspect that there is a subtle difference. Which one is appropriate for this article? Atrian 14:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Image:MelLastman.jpg

You said: "The photo is unquestionably of him at city hall in the early 70's." And You licensed it as a "scan of a newspaper page or article" - photo is not an article. Please fix it. feydey 17:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Since the photo is by: "Toronto Star photographer Harold Barkley" I'd guess it is owned by by the newspaper and there is no license available to allow us to use that photo. Look for another photo. feydey 18:15, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Miller

Would you mind also reviewing the rest of this page for spelling and grammar mistakes? I've added quite a bit of text in the last few weeks, and some mistakes are abound to have crept in. I appreciate the work you've done so far -- I think we have a shared interest here, and I'd obviously like to have this page took as professional as possible. CJCurrie 03:39, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Is there anything in particular that doesn't seem right? I have access to a search engine, and could probably recheck more easily. CJCurrie 23:09, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

You're right about that point; that was a good addition. (Although I didn't actually compare the shows at all in my version ...) CJCurrie 23:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I've rechecked, and Miller actually used the words "world-class city" in the original article. (He was young, after all ...)

I'll leave the introduction and the garbage disposal header to your discretion; I don't have any strong feelings about these one way or the other. CJCurrie 16:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Candidate websites on Toronto municipal election, 2006

Hi. I know you've already offered an opinion on this topic, but can you read my latest post. Maybe we can stop all the fuss if we can get a clear consensus. Thanks. Wolfchild 20:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mayoral lead-in

Atrian: I've made some adjustments to the Miller section. I'm inclined to agree with your point concerning local media coverage, but the previous wording struck me as a bit POV -- perhaps there's a more neutral way of making the same point.

The version I've prepared focused on priorities and included general criticism. I think this more succinct approach works better in this context, but I'm obviously open to further revisions. CJCurrie 22:29, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:EricHinske.jpg)

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[edit] Image:AJBurnett.jpg

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[edit] Image:NU-Canada-territory.png

Image:NU-Canada-territory.png is now updated with the Hudson/James Bay islands, in case you want to use it in Nunavut. --66.82.9.74 19:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC) (Qyd)

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[edit] FYI on units

Hi Atrian,
The MOS guideline on units of measurement in text is to spell them out and only abbrivate when they are converted values or in a table or infobox. For that reason, I reverted some of your edits to the Toronto article. —MJCdetroit 04:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bt article

I am a new user of Wikipedia. I have been informally studying Bt for a number of years, and I was not surprised to find that the Bt article might need some updating in terms of human safety (my focus), which is now not so certain as it was 10 years ago.

I crafted a major revision to the article by keeping everything that was there and just making additions, but especially as a newbie I do not want to disturb things, so I have held off posting it. I am also trying to contact "PR Johnson" who seems to be editing this article of late.

My draft revision is too long to post here but I would like to send it to you for comments.

GeorgePlasmid 18:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Don River names

Ah, thanks for the sources! I'm still curious where the Ojibwe translation of "black burnt lands" comes from, though? Ojibwe for "burnt" is wiisakode-, which looks quite similar to the "Wonscota-" part of the name. But I'm not sure where "-nach" comes from. neyaashi means "point of land" or "point", though, so maybe wiisakode-neyaashi, "burnt point of land"? --Miskwito 00:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the Mississaugas spoke the Anishinaabe language. Thanks for the links --Miskwito 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to figure out what "back burnt grounds" means, then. "Back" doesn't make much sense to me there...Oh well. --Miskwito 02:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Country references

Hi. I noticed that you reverted an edit by Yoho2001 on March 20, whereby Yoho2001 had eliminated the reference to Canada in the St. Clair Avenue article (by the way, he went back and reverted your change afterwards). I notice that Yoho2001 has an odd habit of doing that -- (s)he regularly eliminates all references to Canada in various articles. I have reverted most of them, and left him a note on his talk page explaining that Wikipedia is read internationally. We may want to keep an eye on the issue in case (s)he persists. Thanks. Skeezix1000 13:15, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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