Talk:Atmospheric water generator

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[edit] Vandalism

This page has been vandalised a number of times within the last few weeks which have included the addition of material which is based on original research, advertising/spam, etc. This page will remain under constant watch by myself with any changes falling in this category to be revered as soon as possible. Should continued changes to this page occur, I will be forced to request the page is protected and editable by registered users only. thewinchester 16:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

This article has no citations within it, and thus needs further significant rewrites to meet WP:V. thewinchester 15:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Manufacturers list

NOW CORRECTED: SOME GUYS ON PURPOSE ARE SPOILING THE WRITEUP. I THINK I HAVE CORRECTED IT TO ITS OPTIMUM. I HAVE ALSO ADDED ALL MANUFACTURERS AND STATED A DISCLAIMER THAT THE ABOVE LISTING IS NOT INTENDED FOR SALES PROMOTION ETC. THE MAIN REASON I THINK FOR ADDING SUCH A LISTING IS TO FACILITATE INTERESTED READERS TO HAVE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL MACHINE AND NOT JUST TEXT ABOUT ITS WORKING ....YADA YADA. Ashvidia 08:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The manufacturer list would fit to Open Directory Project much better than to Wikipedia, we could just link to that then. I didn't find relevant category there, though, so I just added the template in case someone else knows how to go about adding one. 82.103.215.236 15:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The closest relevant category in dmoz is http://dmoz.org/Business/Food_and_Related_Products/Beverages/Water/Tools_and_Equipment/ . A subcategory for Atmospheric water generators can be created there. A few links are already listed in the existing category. --orlady 21:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
I've started working on building built such a category[1]. I'll I've put a link to it here when I'm done. I'll leave it to others to remove the list of manufacturers. (Just trying to stay aboveboard.) —Wrathchild (talk) 16:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Wrathchild. I've cleaned this all up after another spam link was added this morning. thewinchester 00:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up

My god this article read(s) like an ad. I've removed or changed a lot of the ad-like language, as well as the various Indian references. I've converted the prices to US$, which are much more universal (at least in the English-speaking world) than Indian Rupies. I also cleaned up a few links and added more. More needs to be done to make this a good article. Imroy 15:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but it needs more than a re-write to comply with CSD G11. Flagging for deletion. Thewinchester 06:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I seem to have managed to re-write it so it doesn't read like advertising copy. --Carnildo 07:10, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that looks a whole lot better. Will try and watch this for a while myself to see if we can keep it clean Thewinchester 08:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

NOW CORRECTED: SOME GUYS ON PURPOSE ARE SPOILING THE WRITEUP. I THINK I HAVE CORRECTED IT TO ITS OPTIMUM. I HAVE ALSO ADDED ALL MANUFACTURERS AND STATED A DISCLAIMER THAT THE ABOVE LISTING IS NOT INTENDED FOR SALES PROMOTION ETC. THE MAIN REASON I THINK FOR ADDING SUCH A LISTING IS TO FACILITATE INTERESTED READERS TO HAVE A LOOK AT THE ACTUAL MACHINE AND NOT JUST TEXT ABOUT ITS WORKING ....YADA YADA. Ashvidia 08:06, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Developing countries, categories

The article said it was targeted for use in developing countries (among other applications). I removed this, as it's clearly a fairly high-tech, expensive device relying on electricity or fuel, and isn't an appropriate technology for a poor community.

Partly for the same reason I removed the "Category:Environmental engineering" (I can't see how it fits there), and tried to put it just in the relevant categories. --Singkong2005 04:40, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Go back in the history a few versions, and you'll see the original laundry list of categories. --Carnildo 07:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Developing countries

I strongly disagree after doing some amount of in-depth research on this new concept. On inquiring a few manufacturers (links provided in the article itself) I found out that a home/office unit is available for as low as US$ 400. That’s reasonable and according to almost all these manufacturers the cost of producing a litre of drinking water is as low as 9 cents. Now that’s cheap!!!

I hence would strongly recommend my fellow user that before making any comments one should do ones home work on the topic under discussion. 59.182.16.244 11:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What?

Another company is involved in making a machine that extracts water from car exhausts.

Are they nuts? Water from car exhausts? -- Toytoy 08:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

How so? Water is water -- NASA even developed a system to distill the water out of urine. Btyner 20:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I imagine that they were having problem with petroleum products that distill out along with the water instead of "just" the water.
Why not? Assuming complete combustion, burning a liter of gasoline produces almost a full liter of fairly pure water. --Carnildo 20:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Simple, no car is one hundred percent efficient in combustion. Otherwise you wouldn't have petroleum waste products at all. Unfortunately this is far from being the case, most cars don't burn the gasoline completely, in favor of getting more efficiency in terms of fuel to power. Burning off the rest reduces the amount of power you've got going toward propulsion. -- Kuroji 03:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
I still don't see what's nuts about condensing water out of car exhaust. --Carnildo 03:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Details

The cost effectiveness of an atmospheric water generator depends on the capacity of the machine as well as on humidity and temperature conditions.

and

The cost of producing 1 litre of water will typically range from $US0.03 (85-100% RH) to $US0.06 (40-50% RH).

This needs a source citation, and the more of these I see the more this looks like blatent advertising.

thewinchester 06:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Considerations

"The Current Global Atmospheric Problems-to much Water Due to Global Warming" Says Aqua Physicist at TeraLab, U.S.A.

This needs a source citation, and the more of these I see the more this looks like blatent advertising.

thewinchester 06:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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