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[edit] The name of this article
I have consulted dozens of maps, schedules, and books, some going back decades, and can find absolutely no reference to the line of the LIRR that runs in Atlantic Avenue being called the "Atlantic Branch". Please provide a source. Jd2718 01:10, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[1][2] --NE2 01:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Stations that existed after the improvement and electrification
- Flatbush Avenue (underground terminal)
- Nostrand Avenue (elevated side platforms)
- East New York (surface side platforms)
- Warwick Street (elevated island), closed 1939
- Chestnut Street Junction (surface; not a station)
- Autumn Avenue, earlier Railroad Avenue (surface side platforms), closed 1939
- Union Course (surface side platforms), closed 1939
- Woodhaven (surface side platforms), closed 1939
- Woodhaven Junction (surface side platforms), closed 1977
- Clarenceville (surface side platforms), closed 1939
- Morris Park (surface side platforms), closed 1939
- Dunton (surface side platforms), closed 1939
- Jamaica
--NE2 05:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Initial rapid transit stops (1877)
Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Steam Motors, August 12, 1877, page 4
- Flatbush Avenue
- Vanderbilt Avenue
- Grand Avenue
- Franklin Avenue
- Nostrand Avenue
- Brooklyn Avenue
- Albany Avenue
- Troy Avenue
- Utica Avenue
- Rochester Avenue
- Ralph Avenue
- Hopkinson Avenue
- Stone Avenue
- East New York
--NE2 10:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Also see Brooklyn Daily Eagle, To Abandon Crossings, May 9, 1899, page 7 and Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Application Granted, July 6, 1899, page 6: [3][4]. --NE2 12:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Also Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Rapid Transit, August 13, 1877, page 4: [5][6] - also states that through trains made no stops between Flatbush and East New York except Bedford, at least after rapid transits began. --NE2 01:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
An 1890 map (NYPL 1519748) shows the following stations:
- Flatbush Avenue
- Vanderbilt Avenue
- Grand Avenue
- Franklin Avenue
- Nostrand Avenue
- Brooklyn Avenue
- Kingston Avenue
- Troy Avenue
- Utica Avenue
- Ralph Avenue
- Saratoga Avenue
- Rockaway Avenue
- Manhattan Beach Railroad Crossing
- Pennsylvania Avenue
- Van Siclen Avenue (between Miller and Van Siclen)
- Linwood Street (between Elton and Linwood)
--NE2 22:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
The following are on an 1897 map:
- Flatbush Avenue
- Vanderbilt Avenue
- Washington Avenue
- Grand Avenue
- Bedford
- Nostrand Avenue
- Brooklyn Avenue
- Schenectady Avenue
- Utica Avenue
- Rochester Avenue
- Ralph Avenue
- Rockaway Avenue
- Manhattan Beach Railroad Crossing
- Alabama Avenue
- Wyona Avenue
--NE2 01:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 1877 through stations
This information is from [7], except west of East New York.
- Flatbush Avenue
- Bedford
- East New York
- Cypress Avenue
- Union Course
- Woodhaven
- Jamaica
[edit] 1898 temporary discontinuances
The starred stations were discontinued in 1898 with the opening of the Chestnut Street Incline.[1]
- Flatbush Avenue
- Vanderbilt Avenue*
- Grand Avenue*
- Bedford
- Nostrand Avenue*
- Brooklyn Avenue*
- Kingston Avenue*
- Troy Avenue*
- Utica Avenue*
- Ralph Avenue*
- Saratoga Avenue*
- Rockaway Avenue*
- East New York
- Howard House
- Pennsylvania Avenue*
- Van Sicklen Avenue*
- Linwood Avenue*
--NE2 23:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mentions of stations
- Flatbush Avenue (no need to list mentions here)
- Vanderbilt Avenue[2][3][1][4]
- Washington Avenue[3]
- Grand Avenue[2][5][6][3][1][4]?
- Bedford/Franklin Avenue[2][3][1][4]
- Nostrand Avenue[2][3][1][4]
- New York Avenue
- Brooklyn Avenue/Tompkins Avenue[2][7][3][1][4]
- Kingston Avenue[1][4]
- Albany Avenue[2]
- Troy Avenue[2][1][4]
- Schenectady Avenue[3]
- Utica Avenue[2][3][1]
- Rochester Avenue[2]
- Ralph Avenue[2][3][1][4]
- Saratoga Avenue[1][4]
- Hopkinson Avenue[2]
- Rockaway Avenue[3][1][4]
- Stone Avenue[2]
- Manhattan Beach Railroad Crossing[1]
- Howard House/Alabama Avenue[2]?[3][1][4]
- Pennsylvania Avenue[8][1][4]
- Wyckoff Avenue[8][9][10][11]
- Van Siclen Avenue[9][3][1][4]
- Warwick Street
- Linwood Street/Van Wicklens[9][3][1]
- Norwood Avenue[4]
- Cypress Avenue[3]
- Cypress Hills
- Autumn Avenue/Railroad Avenue[12]
- Adamsville
- City Line[13][3][12][4]
- Unionville
- Union Course
- Woodhaven/Woodville
- Trotting Course Lane
- Woodhaven Junction
- Chester Park[4]
- Clarenceville
- Lefferts Avenue
- Morris Park[14]
- Morris Grove
- Berlin[15][16]
- Berlin Junction
- Dunton/Berlin Switch/South Side Railroad Crossing/Van Wyck Avenue
- Beaver Street
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q Brooklyn Daily Eagle, The Application Approved, October 31, 1898, page 1
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Steam Motors, August 12, 1877, page 4
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Want Stations Restored, October 20, 1898, page 16
- ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Application Granted, July 6, 1899, page 6
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Unidentified, July 23, 1880, page 4
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, A Coach Driver's Suit, December 9, 1882, page 4
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Run Over and Killed, September 13, 1888, page 6
- ^ a b Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Investigated, April 19, 1878, page 4
- ^ a b c Brooklyn Daily Eagle, A Brave Boy, June 19, 1879, page 4
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, A Narrow Escape, December 22, 1879, page 3
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Conciliation, August 25, 1883, page 4
- ^ a b Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Must Stop at City Line, January 30, 1899, page 3: this article also deals with changes made when the incline was added - also Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Rapid Transit's Patrons Protest, October 26, 1898, page 2
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, L. I. R. R. Rapid Transit, October 6, 1898, page 3
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Long Island Making Progress, April 26, 1885, page 9
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, United, August 7, 1878, page 4
- ^ Brooklyn Daily Eagle, The Crash, August 2, 1880, page 2
[edit] Another table
1877[2] | 1878[8] | 1890[9] | 1897[10][11] | 1898[3] | 1898[1] | 1899[4] | 1899[12][13] | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Flatbush Avenue | x | x | x | x | n | x | ||
Vanderbilt Avenue | x | x | x | x | x | |||
Washington Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Grand Avenue | x | x | x | x? | ||||
Bedford | x | x | x | x | x | n | x | x |
Nostrand Avenue | x | x | x | x | x | n | ||
New York Avenue | ||||||||
Brooklyn Avenue | x | x | x | x | x | |||
Kingston Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Albany Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Troy Avenue | x | x | x | x | n | |||
Schenectady Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Utica Avenue | x | x | x | x | n | |||
Rochester Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Ralph Avenue | x | x | x | x | x | |||
Saratoga Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Hopkinson Avenue | x | |||||||
Rockaway Avenue | x | x | x | x | ||||
Stone Avenue | x | |||||||
Manhattan Beach Railroad Crossing | ? | x | x | x | n | x | ||
Howard House | ? | x | x | x | x | n | x | x/n |
Pennsylvania Avenue | x | x | ||||||
Wyckoff Avenue | x | |||||||
Bradford Avenue | /x | |||||||
Van Siclen Avenue | x | x | x | x | ||||
Warwick Street | ||||||||
Linwood Street | x | x | x | x | x | |||
Norwood Avenue | x | x | x | x | ||||
Cypress Avenue | x | |||||||
Cypress Hills | ||||||||
Railroad Avenue | ||||||||
Adamsville | ||||||||
City Line | x | x | ||||||
Unionville | ||||||||
Union Course | ||||||||
Woodhaven | x | x | x | |||||
Trotting Course Lane | ||||||||
Woodhaven Junction | x | x | x | |||||
Chester Park | x | |||||||
Clarenceville | x | x | x | |||||
Lefferts Avenue | ||||||||
Morris Park | x | x | x | |||||
Morris Grove | ||||||||
Berlin | ||||||||
Berlin Junction | ||||||||
Dunton | x | x | x | |||||
Jamaica | x | x | x | |||||
New York Avenue | x | x | x | |||||
Canal Street | x | x | x/ | |||||
Rockaway Junction | x | x | x |
Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Poor Train Service to Manhattan Beach, June 25, 1900, page 1 talks about Manhattan Beach trains skipping Nostrand Avenue, Troy Avenue, and Utica Avenue. In Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Manhattan Beach, July 6, 1899, page 4 they still stopped there. --NE2 10:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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