Talk:Atefah Sahaaleh
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[edit] Date of birth
Do we know at least the year of her birth? If she was 16 when she died in 2004, that would put her birth in 1988 or 1989, depending on if she already had birthday that year or not. --Billpg 12:34, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Her Name
Searching for background is difficult as everyone seems to have a different name for her. Are we sure the article title is correct? --Billpg 12:34, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- The form used for the heading of this article seems to be the most common form, based on Google searches and more reputable online sources. --ishel99 00:42, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
- I have suggested to merge the article at Atefeh Rajabi into this article because it seems best to have one central article for each person. The spelling with the 'q' seems to be favoured on major English-language sites such as Amnesty International, over the spelling with the 'f'; and Google produces somewhat more hits for the 'q' spelling. --ishel99 00:57, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
According to the BBC [1] her name is Atefah Sahaaleh. Seems to be the most authoritative source yet. I've added a redirect for the benefit of people searching while the show is on. --Billpg 20:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- I'm leaning towards renaming the article to the BBC's spelling. Thoughts? Objections? --Billpg 19:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Arabic alphabet
It would nice to get the Arabic-alphabet version of her name. The confusion between F and Q is presumably because the Arabic letters ف and ق only differ by one dot (in their "medial" forms). AnonMoos 21:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Amnesty International Arabic site seems to use both عاتقة رجبي and عاطفة رجبي !! AnonMoos 17:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
She was not Arab, she is Persian. You want her name in Farsi. -- 03:43, 23 October 2006 68.19.222.107
- And Farsi uses the Arabic alphabet (with only minor differences). Her name is likely to be spelled the same (or almost the same, with the substitution of the special Persian ya Unicode character) in both Arabic and Farsi uses... AnonMoos 12:46, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Political views removed
- Lastly, Wikipedia is not a blog (see WP:NOT) so we shouldn't be discussing our personal feelings about an issue. This talk page is supposed to be for discussion related to the article. Cheers. sikander 02:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Everyone, please restrict yourself to discussing the current article, not politics or religion, unless the article itself is directly related to them. Cheers! chem1 14:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV
It's evident that a lot of care has been done to keep this article as an encyclopedia article. However I must point out that the use of the adjective "macabre", unless quoted, shows too much POV on the part of the article instead of merely reporting what happened to Atefah Sahaaleh and who she is. I'm still relatively new to wikipedia and am still a little unfamiliar with it's policies, but if anybody more experienced agrees with me, please remove the adjective and edit the article accordingly. Thanks. Great religion....for 1-st century not for 2006
[edit] Backward Governments
This article should be used as a link/citation (among many, many others) for the inclusion of Iran in the "Backward Governments" category.72.82.189.110 17:11, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Age of Consent in Iran
I’ve removed the following because it’s not true and seems to be an artifact of an press release that even the BBC took as factual without checking. In Iran the age of consent is 15 for boys and 13 for girls. (see for example [2]). Backdooruk 17:34, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
- "But proving rape is very hard in Iran, where, under Sharia law, the age of sexual consent for girls is 9.”
The number "9" comes from the Aisha controversies (but Shi`ites reject hadiths with Aisha as a source...). AnonMoos 08:42, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] YouTube links
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 03:18, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bad link
I removed that Front Page link because it was too wildly inaccurate to be in the article. The "experts" interviewed actually thought Iran was an Arab country! No credibility whatsoever.
It is sad what happened to that young woman and we don't want this article to be made a laughingstock because of links like that one!Amity150 08:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
