Talk:Asociación de Víctimas del Terrorismo

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Whilst all foreign secret services, all police reports and all other political parties in Spain contend that this terrorist act was committed by Al Qaeda solely

This is unsourced and rebutted nonsense. I removed this line.

See a rebuttal of this (unsourced) claim here.

While the bombers may have been inspired by Bin Laden, a two-year investigation into the attacks has found no evidence that al-Qa'ida helped plan, finance or carry out the bombings, or even knew about them in advance.

Randroide 15:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC) ~


Per WP:MOS#Article_titles, I have removed the link of the 2004 Madrid bomb section title:

As a general rule, do not put links in:

the boldface title or synonym in the article’s first mention

or any section title.

Cheers Raystorm 11:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

O.K. Thank you very much for the information (and the link), Raystorm. CU. Randroide 13:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced texts

These consider that the explanation of facts provided by the Spanish Judiciary (signaling the al-Qaeda organization as the sole author of the attack) is satisfactory [citation needed].

Seems that the association headed by Pilar Manjon has no website (!?).

The answer that she provides in the "Mundo Obrero" interview about what the h**l does she think about the issue of who commited the bombings is too obscure for my understanding.

I keep searching and I ask for help. Randroide 14:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

However, the AVT has thereafter expressed doubts about the Socialist government's will (which came to power after the general election held only three days after the attacks) to investigate the bombings, since the Parliamentary Commission dealing with clarifying the events surrounding the attacks was closed and published its conclusions sooner than the AVT wanted to [citation needed].
The conservative Partido Popular, as well as some right-wing media, such as the COPE radio station or the El Mundo newspaper, insist on alternative theories involving either ETA, the Moroccan Secret Services or the Spanish police in preparing these terrorist bombings [citation needed].

Southofwatford 20:07, 15 January 2007 (UTC) Using an article about the AVT as a pretext to float conspiracy theories about the Madrid bombings is a ridiculous and absurd abuse of Wikipedia. The AVT represents a handful of victims of the 11th March bombings in the forthcoming trial, and is closely linked to the Partido Popular.

Randroide 10:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC) The article is about the AVT, and the AVT has some (sourced) positions about the Madrid bombings. Those positions are kosher for the article.

The AVT represents a handful of victims of the 11th March bombings in the forthcoming trial, and is closely linked to the Partido Popular.

If you can source that (alleged) link to the PP, please add that (sourced) fact to the article.

[edit] Distinguish between Opinions and Facts

The overall tone of this article seems to support controversy without limiting itself to explain the position of the AVT on specific issues. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sputnikenmeister (talk • contribs) 19:20, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

Could you please point to specific lines "supporting controversy"?. Those lines should be corrected, of course.

To sign, please type four "~" ("AltGr" plus 4 times "4"). Randroide 19:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Answers to the questions

Since all these question have answers, I state here the answers if somebody is interested

Q-Why there are no pictures of the alleged perpetrators, like in the 7 July 2005 London bombings. A-The cameras in the stations were not recording

Q-Why is unknown the type of explosives that went off in the trains. A-It is not unknown. It was GOMA2-ECO with a contamination of GOMA2-EC

Q-Why there are so much Spanish police informers among the alleged perpetrators. A-There is none in the islamic cell. Only in the people who supply the dynamite there were one whose warnings were not attended because he was known for his lies.

Q-How is possible that the alleged perpetrators were under surveillance and infiltrated by the Spanish police. A-They were not infiltrated. Some branches of the police have given unconnected attention to some of them at various periods of time without taking the big picture.

Q-How is possible that a spanish policeman [Maussili Kalaji] armed the bombs, and that a Guardia Civil agent provided weapons to the alleged perpetrators. A-This is not true. The cell phones were unblocked by this man who owns a cell phone shop. This happened before they were sold the terrorists so nobody can know that would finish being the activators of the bombs.

--Igor21 15:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)