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Date of review: 8 October 2006

"Ashton had a fraternal twin brother, Michael, who was born with cardiomyopathy, a deadly disease that eats away at the heart's muscles. Michael was given about six hours to live, but survived with a transplant."Ashton is to hot for life. Most girls love him for his sexy back.


Is Michael still alive? 193.171.249.98 16:08, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, Michael is still alive. JackO'Lantern 02:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Clean Up

This article needs some serious clean-up from someone who has studied both the ways of the Wikipedia, and Ashton Kutchers life. I realize finding an individual with both said qualities will be overwhelmingly difficult; I had to post anyway.

[edit] Ashton for Batman Begins sequel

Ashton would be a great choice to play pretty boy district attorney Harvey "Apollo" Dent in BATMAN BEGINS 2.

[edit] The Terrell Owens Controversy Section

It's poorly written and makes no sense whatsoever to those of us not "in the know". Fix it or remove the section. Jgw 17:56, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. Its also unnecessary. I will get rid of it. --Cms479 16:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Freddie Mercury

Anyone else think this guy looks like Freddie Mercury? Check out the Bohemian Rhapsody video. 09:55, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No.

you know I thought the same thing the other day when I was watching that 70 show

yeah dude no real resemblence whatsoever

[edit] Weakly transitioned paragraph?

For some reason an entire paragraph of this article reminds me of factoids pulled from the Random Vin Diesel Fact Generator (reload and ignore personally offensive messages to see what I mean): [1]

"At one time Kutcher had a job sweeping floors at a General Mills plant. He once was so poor, he donated blood for money. He was kicked out of the school play because he was caught drinking beer. He got arrested at 18 years old for breaking into his school with a friend and stealing money from a vending machine. Because his probation prohibited him from leaving Iowa, Kutcher majored in biochemical engineering at the University of Iowa in 1997 but dropped out to pursue modeling."

--AEton 21:48, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ashton's Cellular Phone Hacked

The website www.ashtonhacked.com purports that the sound files maintained there are actual answering machine messages left on Kutcher's machine and stolen through hacking. I have added this to the main article but with clarification that it may not be legitimate. Pacian 21:01, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

It has been edited to reflect the facts - the entire thing was a prank by Kutcher himself. Pacian 21:12, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

This section needs to be re-thought/re-wrote. The wedding has not even been confirmed, and is still a rumor (as of Sept. 28, 2005). Also, having listened to the alleged voicemails, they are almost assuredly fake. User:dqmillar 00:10, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

The website www.ashtonhacked.com was created by www.zug.com, as a prank on Ashton Kutcher, and when they heard they were getting married, they decided to say that Ashton created it and that the wedding was fake. For more details go to: http://www.zug.com/pranks/ashton/

[edit] Owens

Hey, I just adjusted the whole page, but this section really sticks out and it doesn't make sense as is. It's not clear what the apology was for and how it involves Kutcher, and then it mentions Kutcher's punking Owns after the apology? If someone can make sense of it we should put it back, under the "Punk'd" section, but in a more understandable format. "Another occurence, during the show's sixth season, involved football player Terrell Owens, who did not apologize to Kutcher after he read a replica of the apology letter written by Owens (Owens had already apologized to QB Donovan McNabb, Head Coach Andy Reid, and the Philadelphia Eagles). Kutcher later "punk'd" Owens when he staged a bus accident and then set a fake personal injury lawyer on Owens as he was attempting to help elderly people he believed were injured. This episode first aired 13 November 2005". JackO'Lantern 02:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Also, we need a picture for this page. Kutcher is certainly high-profile enough. JackO'Lantern 02:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Age

The Notable Names Database mentions in the last sentence that Kutcher's Los Angeles voter registration card states his year of birth as 1974, though Kutcher "insists" he was born in 1978. Does anyone know something about this? 09:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

http://www.nndb.com/people/768/000022702/

I was wondering about that too. Apparently the original source for this was a tabloid, which claimed it had a copy of his Iowa birth certificate (with a 1974 date). I'm not sure if a tabloid is good enough, though. JackO'Lantern 09:11, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Now I see that he graduated from high school in 1996, which is consistent with a 1978 birthdate. Gilliamjf 06:10, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

It was a voter registration.[2] Here's part two of the story.[3] --Fallout boy 21:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


I went to college with him and can vouch for the fact that he was under 21 in 1997, which makes a 1974 birth impossible. There could be an error on the voter registration card.

[edit] Missing "cheaper by the dozen" filmography entry

I noticed that in his filmography list isn't mentioned the movie "Cheaper by the Dozen", is that intended? If so, why? Granted, he's not credited in the movie, but he's definately listed in the IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005110/ and his role in that movie was more than just a 'walk-on' role/character. --Archangel Michael 18:03, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Well... Add it then. --Deenoe 23:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cell phone hacked

Who removed the section about Ashton's cell phone being hacked? I thought that was an excellent addition to the page. --CLICK "Sign your Username"

  • It was a prank - see above. --Lexein 16:54, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bohemain ancestry?

Is his dad Bohemian? He has a bohemian name or is he not?

There were a lot of Czech immigrants to Iowa in the 19th century. It's pretty clear from what I've seen that his Bohemian ancestry is distant. He's really mostly Anglo-Irish, etc. JackO'Lantern 06:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Cedar Rapids has a huge Czech and Slovac population and has for some time, so if his family has lived in the area for awhile, it's difficult not to be Bohemian. I live here and am frequently asked if I'm Czech or Slovac (as if I have to be one or the other)

He must be Sudeten German [paternal]. My surname is Kutscher [am German].

[edit] Mother's last name

Was listed as "Stone" - does anyone have a source for where that came from? Mad Jack 00:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kutcher on Myspace

According to Ashton-Kutcher.net, Ashton will donate $1 to Habitat For Humanity® International for the first 50,000 people who add him as a friend on Myspace. There are loads of fake profiles for him. PrometheusX303 14:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Larry King Live

On September 28, 2006, Kutcher appeared on the television program "Larry King Live". He stated that his family moved to the Homestead, Iowa, farm when he was 13. He also said that during the eight month period he lived in New York, he flew to Los Angeles and auditioned for his role on That 70's Show his very first day in town. This second statement doesn't seem to agree with the article's assertion that the hit show discovered him at a bar in Iowa City. --Blainster 08:14, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha. It's been corrected. Thanks, Mad Jack 16:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kutcher's mother

The early life section is incredibly confusing. (A) If Kutcher's parent' were married, is it correct that they didn't have the same last name? (B) Also, while I know that Kutcher's mom's first name is Diane, the name Diane Finnegan only brings up two google sites (both wikipedia) when searched with the name Kutcher. (C) The name Diane Porter comes up like a kazillion times (D) What is Diane's maiden, first married, and second married names? If we could determine this definitively, then the case would be closed.--Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 17:45, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA Review

After reviewing the article according to the Good Article Criteria, I have to decline the article's nomination for GA status at this time for concerns that are listed below. While reviewing, I also looked to for comparison the Eric Bana, Uma Thurman and Julia Stiles articles. I encourage the article's editors to look to those pages as examples and guides for what this article could become.
1. It is well written. - Pass

  • There were some minor copy edits that took the liberty of correcting but overall the article seems to pass this criteria with no glaring violation of WP:MOS.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. - Needs Improvement

  • There was some "citation needed" tags prior to the review that need to be cited.
  • Considering the sensitive nature of BLP's, I would also look into citing some of the "dating history" with reliable sources. Some celebrities consider that information private and personal. Having that type of information attached to a strong reliable source would not only put that info in the clear but would also help curb the insertions of "dubious former lovers" into the paragraph.

3. It is broad in its coverage. - Needs Improvement

  • Outside of a brief mention of the "dim pretty boys" characterization, there is not really any coverage on Kutcher's acting reputation and how it is perceived by the critics and mainstream viewers alike. What is his acting style like? What do critics say are his strengths and weakness? What do movie studios or viewers think of his box office draw? Are there any director's quotes about working with him?

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy - Needs Improvement

  • I would rework the Selected Filmography section to be more comprehensive (looks like you're missing 5-7 projects). The very description "selected" is POV oriented in that it is using some unknown (and presumably un-objective) criteria for inclusion in the list.

5. It is stable - Pass

  • The article is a bit of a vandal target but the editors are prompt in maintaining the integrity of the article. Overall the article seems to have progressed gracefully in development.

6. It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic. - Needs Improvement

  • The article has images but part of the criteria is that the all the images included be properly tagged (Criteria 6a). Image:Welling and kutcher.jpg has a deletion notice due to improper sourcing.


I encourage the editors to consider renominating after the above concerns have been addressed. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Agne 10:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hottest Guy?

Ashton Kutcher is the hottest guy in the whole world

According to what standard? This part seems unfinished... PeteWarrior 04:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notability

Is this person really notable enough to be included in an encyclopedia? I agree. He is the hottest guy everrrrrrr. But yes he should be able to have his own encyclopediea, because some people, like me, want to know about him.

[edit] Ethnicity??

What is his ethnicity?

[edit] School?

wow who runs this? there is know such things as Cedar Rapids High school, there is 5 or six high school in cedar rapids. two he went to washington high for a yr. 3 he went to highschool at amanas for 3 yrs.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.225.239.137 (talk) 06:19, 16 February 2007 (UTC).

Iowaian :-) Rito Revolto 00:02, 20 February 2007 (UTC)