Talk:As-Salamu Alaykum
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Any chance of getting a pronunciation guide?
- I'm not familiar enough with pronounciation keys and I can't seem to find it right now, but phonetically, its: AH-SAL'AM-OO AL-'AYE-CUM. Sorry I can't be of more help. I'll keep looking. --jenlight 17:29, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Salamun'Alaikum
I suspect that this form is simply (سلام عليكم) with a nominative tanwin after the mīm - can anyone confirm or deny this? And should this not still be two words (salāmun `alaykum)? Also, as regards the "...way the Qur'an commands a Muslim to greet others..." note, can anyone furnish a reference to what surah and ayah this comes from? That would be very helpful. Keldan 08:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pronunciation
Please DO NOT edit anything to do with the pronunciation, as it is all correct. Whizkidravi edited it and he/she gave the pronunciation used in India (where the user is from) which IS NOT correct.
As a student of Arabic Tajweed and phonetics I can assure you that everything is 100% correct, and if you disagree please post your thoughts here first.--Mecca Cola 08:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Who says i am an indian? i am a die hard Pakistani student of quran and islam (and french)-ᵺe Æffist 15:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I guess the Indian flag you had made me assume that you are Indian. ---Still, the pronunciation you are giving is 100% wrong. If you do study the Qur'an with proper tajweed you will know that the Fatha is pronounced in Arabic as the 'a' in 'cat' [IPA: æ] and not as you have put. I know that this pronunciation you have put is common in the sub-continent, however it is wrong.
- Well mister mecca i would just like to tell you that a whopping 160+140+120= 520 million muslims live in south asia who say a as in car, plus another 300 in Iran and Indonesia, making almost 820 million (plus not-counted not-muslim south asians who say salaam) , about 12% of the world, and more than half of all msulims. however since "Salaam" is of arabic origin it is levereged out. Perhaps we can make an agreement concerning the different pronunciations und styles atound the world. PS concerning the bit about it being funny over wrong pronunciations, do not always listen to your imported islamic imam than a native living in one of the highest population muslim cummonities, such as lahore, ratha dan melbourne -ᵺe Æffist 04:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
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- As-Salaamu `Alaykum, brother/sister, I suggest that we all fear Allaah in our interactions here. To begin with, my Imam is one of the most knowledgeable in the whole world in Qur'an Tajweed. He has in Ijaaza in every of the 7 recitations of the Qur'an and in the 7 ahruf. Basically he knows the whole Qur'an almost 50 times over. He has studied all his life and has set up many institutes for studying Qur'an. I myself am a linguist, so when I say something it is not out of guesswork or estimation, I have studied phonetics and Arabic enough to know how a fatha is pronounced. I agree that maybe we can add a section to how the greeting is pronounced in various countries, however we should make it clear that in Classical (Fusha) Arabic, the greeting is pronounced as I have written it. This is more correct as the greeting is from the Arabic language, and despite the fact that people have their own ways of pronouncing it, we all agree that it was a greeting of the Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu `Alayhi wa Sallam) and Allaah ordered it and this was given in the Arabic language according to the pronounciation of Quraysh, which is what I gave.I will add the variations from now, but please do not change what I have given as it is correct.--Mecca Cola 11:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] More information on pronunciation
As-salamu 'Alaikum
I am not following Islam right now, and my family are not Muslims, but I know it is a beautiful practice, and I want to learn to say this blessing properly when I greet Muslims.
[ʔæsːælæːmʊ ʕælæɪkʊm] is in the International Phonetic Alphabet. I used IPA in university but it is hard for me to imagine the vowels from the description (for example [ʊ] is a high back unrounded vowel) as they are no included in my native dialect of English.
It would be helpful to have audio recordings included in this article with examples of the pronunciation used in different countries. I find it rather easy to imitate sounds from other languages after hearing them. I have not been able to find such recordings on the internet. I would appreciate a link in this article. If you know where such a recording is please contact me.
As-salamu 'Alaikum
Sometimes somethings
23:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Spelling
I'm curious: Why are the words capitalized? -- Pete Scholtes
[edit] Cite for not giving salutation to Non-Muslims
I saw the tag on the line about not giving the salutation to Infidels. I see that this link discusses the issue. I have no idea of its authortiy.
http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=4975&ln=eng&txt=Salaam
“Do not initiate the greeting with the Jews and Christians” and his command to reply by saying, “Wa ‘alaykum.” What we have mentioned as our madhhab or point of view is also the opinion of most of the scholars and the majority of the salaf… It is permissible to initiate the greeting when addressed to a group composed of both Muslims and kaafirs, or one Muslim and a number of kaafirs, but he should intend the greeting to be directed towards the Muslim(s) among them, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) greeted an assembly that included a mixture of Muslims and mushrikeen.
VinceP1974 VP1974 09:45, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Placing the right palm on forehead?
"In the Indian subcontinent and Malaysia the saying of Salaam is often accompanied with an obeisance, performed by bowing low and placing the right palm on the forehead."
I'm from Malaysia and a Muslim and I've NEVER seen anyone do the palm on forehead thing in my whole life.
218.111.207.242 00:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
