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Any ideas on how we can maintain this entire page? Everytime we update it (say once a month), by retrieving an old version of Wikipedia:Requested articles or Requested articles we have to remove the inappropiate requests again (unless we can set up a redirect). Making a judgement whether an article title is inappropiate or not is subjective and hard. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 12:47, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I don't think anything short of a feature request to the developers would help. We would have to ask for a feature that takes a page, and filters out already-existing links and non-link text. →Raul654 12:50, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)

That much can be done by hand. The problem is if someone requests some bogus article that will never exist, then it has to get removed every time. Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 13:43, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Well, in theory, you could run an sql query against the entire requested-articles history. You take all the nonexistant articles ever requested, and put them in one list, ordered by date. Then, by hand, you remove the bogus ones (once). Use entires in the list prior to Feb 6 (or whatever 2 years ago is). →Raul654 13:50, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)

How about this for a less technical solution - we make things like Wikipedia:Articles requested since February 2002, Wikipedia:Articles requested since August 2002, Wikipedia:Articles requested since February 2003. Every six months we add a new page with this naming convention - Then we redirect Wikipedia:Articles requested for over a year to Wikipedia:Articles requested since $CLOSEST_TO_A_YEAR_AGO the Wikipedia:Articles requested for over two years redirects to Wikipedia:Articles requested since $CLOSEST_TO_TWO_YEARS_AGO. We update the redirect only once every six months - and when the weeding happens once every six months with the new page we go to the Wikipedia:Request articles page and remove them from there too - so it they won't be weeded again in six months time. I think that makes sense! Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 14:26, 6 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Actually, before you even posted, I was thinking that 6 month 6 months intervals for the updates wouldn't be so bad. Sounds good to me. →Raul654 14:30, Feb 6, 2004 (UTC)

The page is not getting updated, and I don't know if it will be useful again. Wikipedia:Articles requested for more than a year is not even terribly large right now. Redirect there? --Michael Snow 22:19, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)


[edit] It's all empty now

There were only two un-created links on the page, so I created both articles. Should we kill the page? - DavidWBrooks 21:17, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

For the umpteenth time this has been asked - no, just let it sit empty for a while. →Raul654 21:19, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Platino

I can't find any external reference (google test) on "Mark Platino", so I removed it. Bogdan | Talk 12:12, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] I Just Made an Article on Matilde Casazola

It's a sub-stub but I'll try to add more information as I find it. She's a Bolivian poet. --66.8.251.70 17:29, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Last two names

SimonP, why did you put those two names back on the list? I did what it says and decided that they weren't notable enough to have an article. I couldn't really find anything about them. So if it's ok I think we should take them off. --Matthewjhale

Sometimes those listed here are not deserving of articles, but some evidence should be presented before simply removing a listing. Personally I'm not certain these two should be removed. A Google search on Yves Meyer returns over nine thousand hits, and seems to show him to be a mathematicians of some influence with a long list of publications. I found less on E. Fauquembergue but [1] and [2] seem present him as being worthy of an article. - SimonP 03:48, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)
Your right that a search for Yves Meyer returns a lot of results and it seems that he may have been important in some way with the long lists of publications. They also are both linked to from other articles. However, I would challenge you to find any actually information about them. Besides that the requests are over two years old. To me it seems like a toss up whether to keep them or delete them. In a way they are not really hurting anything by being there, but at some point we have to say that if we can't find any valuable information then we shouldn't just leave them there forever. We would only be deleting them from the request pages, not other articles. --Matthewjhale
Regretably there are many topic that are deserving of articles, but which cannot be written based only on what is found with Google. For obvious reasons these pages tend to make their way to these aged requests pages. Writing articles on these fairly minor figures will probably require turning to offline resources and we are likley to have to wait some time for them to be written. However, these pages always somehow do get written. Every single one of the many thousands of legitimate requests made before December 17, 2003 have been filled, other than these two. Many of these requests were for topics of even greter obscurity. You've been doing some great work in this area, such as the Vivienne Dick and Cherry Ames articles. You have also removed some listings that certainly did not deserve articles, such as analogical masks. What I feel is that you are being too ambitious and that can't set the goal of clearing every listing on your own. Some will just have to wait the arrival of one of those extremely specialized experts that are so useful. - SimonP 00:08, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] J. Ewing request

This could be:

  • James Ewing
  • J.R. Ewing from the TV show Dallas
  • John Ewing the educator
  • state senator John H. Ewing
  • John Ewing the noted mathematician
  • &c.

I think it should just be expunged since we can't deduce what was meant. *shrug* — RJH 30 June 2005 19:50 (UTC)

Actually I take that back. :-) Since E. Fauquembergue is next to J. Ewing, and both Fauquembergue and Ewing are associated with Mersenne primes, it's most likely John H. Ewing the Executive Director of the American Mathematical Society.[3] — RJH 30 June 2005 20:02 (UTC)

I'm tempted to make I HAVE made it a disambiguation page, pointing to James Ewing, J.R. Ewing the American Mathematical Society, etc etc. Oh, and Cathy Sisler is also stubbed. Proto t c 1 July 2005 08:59 (UTC)

As is Fauquembergue. Proto t c 1 July 2005 09:29 (UTC)

  • Thank ye. — RJH 2 July 2005 22:51 (UTC)

[edit] Merged

This page is becoming increasingly inaccurately named. Wikipedia has an increasingly large number of contributors creating articles, and there's an upcoming Wikipedia:Maintenance collaboration of the week to be focused on the one-year requests. It seems like the backlog is shrinking, not growing long enough to hit two years again. So, I've merged this page with the one-year requests, preserving a special section for the very oldest. This will also save room on various lists of pages with outstanding requests. 8) -- Beland 02:28, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

This page is still an extremely useful tool for clearing out the oldest requests. Most items listed here get articles within a couple weeks, after many months requested. It is true that it has not matched its name in sometime, but this does not mean it is not very helpful. The requests are also gradually getting older, so in time it will match. - SimonP 03:24, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Why can't people go to the "oldest" section on the one-year page instead, to see the grand total of three oldest requests? Of course each request gets older every day, but more than one week's progress on the backlog is being made each week, so I don't see how there will ever be any two-year-old requests. -- Beland 21:34, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
The reason this page is effective is because it gives a small number of pages a high degree of visibility. Appending them to the end of the hundreds listed at Wikipedia:Articles requested for more than a year will cancel this. - SimonP 22:10, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Filming in Greece/ Cinema in Greece?

Filming in Greece now redirects to Cinema in Greece; should the listing here be removed? JD 03:26, September 6, 2005 (UTC)

Yes. Proto t c 10:14, 6 September 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Is Korodia actually Karodia?

I decided to just mention the possibility and the Profile of Farida Karodia at the page itself. I'll let others figure it out.--T. Anthony 07:47, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm going to say she is and write the article. If I'm wrong people can just request again for Farida Korodia later.--T. Anthony 04:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The ones up now

Are kind of trickier. Several of them could be many different things. In the case of Durango I don't find anything outside of Wiki, although being less specific I did find a bit about The fraticelli of Durango.

[edit] Irish covenant

Google finds something like forty hits for "Irish Covenant" in Wikipedia or websites that mirror Wikipedia, but they are all in "Articles requested" lists. Is there actually any need for this article? Dalbury 23:55, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

That's odd I had the reverse problem. I found several things for Irish Covenant, but that was the problem. "Irish Covenant" seemed to be used to mean about ten different things.--T. Anthony 00:17, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
I did see "Irish Covenant" for "Ulster Covenant" (which has a Wikipedia article), for a deed (in Irish) relevant to a 19th Century dispute over the boundary between two parishes, for the claim that the Ark of the Covenant is buried at Tara, and in reference to "Ars Magica", which I think is a game. But none of these are in Wikipedia. My point is that I can't find evidence that any article in Wikipedia has a red link to "Irish Covenant".-- Dalbury 02:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Oh I get it, sorry for being dense.--T. Anthony 05:09, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
It sounds like a redirect to Ulster Covenant would cover it. Proto t c 08:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
That makes the most sense. --Dalbury
It is confusing. --Dalbury 10:23, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Extranoematic created

With help from the Oxford English Dictionary online, I have finally created a page for Extranoematic and removed it from this list. I included as much information as I could to make it a real encyclopedia article and not purely a definition. Whether it still deserves to go to Wiktionary is something for others to decide. -Danaman5 07:58, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comment

  • This whole page frustrates me, since most of the requests in this priority category are so ridiculously obscure that only a fool would write more than one or two sentences on them; which is exactly what encyclopedia articles are not for. I think the whole thing should be deleted, except for the one or two reasonable requests. What does anyone else think? Matthew 02:23, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh, and I put up an article for Donald Barrios. Its a pretty terrible article all things considered, but at least its up and we can chop down one more impediment to Wikipedia's encyclopedic domination.Matthew 03:14, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I've been able to create some three or four-paragraph articles for titles on this list. I've also ended up redirecting to another article as a somewhat weak guess as to what was meant. If you feel that the requested article is not justified (not notable, covered adequately in another article,simply no information available, etc.) then take the item off the list, and state why. I've done that, as well. -- Donald Albury (Dalbury)(Talk) 03:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)


  • Someone did a rather good start with the requested article for Joseph Bienaime Caventou. I'm deleting it. I'm also deleting Jules Alfred Pierrot Deseilligny. I went through all the sources I could find, and pretty much every single one said that Deseilliginy was a lunar crater named after a selenographer from the 19th Century. Anyone who wants can put that tidbit in the crater article; it certainly doesn't merit a new article. Matthew 21:23, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] G. E. Casely-Hayford

Having done a little research, I'm not convinced there is any such person as G. E. Casely-Hayford. I believe this is an alternate spelling/misspelling of J. E. Casely Hayford (1866–1930), a major Ghanaian writer. Chick Bowen 06:26, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I'll second that. When I was working on these articles yesterday I couldn't find any mention of the name that did not come from Wikipedia, but found plenty of J.E. mentions. -Dawson 06:45, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
I did at least a cursory Google on each of the names before I added them to the list - that's why there's at least one word describing each one, and why some non-notable red links weren't listed. It seems to be a common enough alternate spelling that it is worth a redirect page to the real article. If J.E. is a major writer, we should definitely have an article on him. So please make the real article, and make G.E. redirect to J.E. GRuban 13:46, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

OK. I did this quickly, so if you guys could look it over that would be good. Thanks. Chick Bowen 17:06, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I was working on the article at the same time, so incorporated your information with what I had done. In another perspective, G.E. may also be a confusion with Gladys May Casely-Hayford, another African author/poet, but she was from Sierra Leone. -Dawson 19:13, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks. Looks good. Chick Bowen 20:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I emptied it

But not in a good way. The only article was Waryngya Band. They are an aboriginal band from Australia. that appears to be the only information available. I think if someone comes along who thinks such an article is needed, he'll create it. For now, I'm editing it out.

Now I have a question: how do I find articles that link to a page that doesn't exist so I can convert it from a red-link to plaintext? so Waryngya Band becomes Waryngya Band? Avraham 03:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Click on the red link, then click on "what links here" on the left side column. For Waryngya, that won't get anything useful, but in case you want to know for the future. GRuban 00:02, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, I see. thanks a lot. What does it mean on the "what links here" page when some things are indented under other things? Avraham 13:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

That's probably from a redirect. Read that link, but in short, a redirect is a page Bar that says #Redirect Foo. When you go to Bar, you end up at Foo (Redirected from Bar). The "what links to Foo" page will have Bar in the list directly, and pages that have a link to Bar listed indented under Bar. GRuban 13:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Any leads on MentorshipArt?

I've scoured Google for leads on the MentorshipART request and I do find hits (about 200 of them) but they all seem to link to each other and go around in circles. The only person that seems to know what MentorshipART is, RJBurkhart, hasn't replied to a request for more information that I left on his talk page.

Anyway, given the circumstances, this article may not be notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. I even suspect that the article request was made by RJBurkhart himself. Should the request for MentorshipART be removed? Reverie 01:08, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Sabine-Southwestern War

According to http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/R&H/R&H-APP.htm, "Southwestern Frontier (Sabine) disturbances Louisiana and Arkansas (no fighting), April, 1836, to June, 1837." A war with no fighting doesn't sound like a very interesting article. I renamed the "war" in two other pages and removed the redlink.


[edit] Greco-Roman Trade

The article about the Greco-Roman trade had been created so I deleted the link. Auroranorth 10:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] taufschein etc / adds to page

Hello - figured out what taufschein and vorschrift are so added redirect. Procedural question -- how do new items get added to this page, is it automated? Bookgrrl 14:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Missed" entries

I had added the following entries, but they were soon removed for being "non-topics." It is my contention that, with the possible exception of "underground coal gasification," all are valid and encyclopedic subjects, but that they were overlooked because they seem unencyclopedic. Two of these were on the requested list on 24 December 2001, but the page history before then has been lost.

  • Tchaikovsky, Permskaya Oblast (requested before 24 December 2001)
    • All towns are considered to be encyclopedic. Note that there are various other transliterations for this name, including "Chaykovsky."
  • Mental Patients' Liberation Front (requested 19 June 2003)
    • I almost dismissed this one immediately, but decided to investigate it as much as I did with the others. This is a borderline case, but there are many mentions in various sources. If the group isn't notable enough, then perhaps it can be incorporated into an article on its founder, Judi Chamberlin (note that her book On Our Own: Patient-Controlled Alternatives to the Mental Health System is widely published and available in hundreds of libraries).
  • Teresa Ferster Glazier (requested 24 July 2002)
  • Pake doublet (requested before 24 December 2001)
    • There are many Google hits, including articles in peer-reviewed journals.
  • Underground coal gasification (requested 30 May 2002)
    • This one might be too specific.
After all that, I forgot to sign. Ardric47 06:01, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed

  • Ananta Das Gaswami (requested 5 October 2003)
    • Possibly unverifiable, see AfD)
    • Found a blogger who seems very knowledgable in the subject, trying to see if he knows a verifiable source for the information.--DBEndy 18:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
    • if it is really a famous philosopher in West Bengal, then somebody must be able to search for such contents in Bengali language. -- Tomchiukc 12:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I removed this because I went through a major book on the music of Bengal as well as all the scholarly sources in my college library, and this guy never gets mentioned. He can hardly be notable. Ashibaka tock 01:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested item

Sister Thea Bowman and Catholic Andrew White —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.226.46.134 (talk) 06:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Jerk Society

Not likely to be notable. 1st result on Google has 9 members.martianlostinspace 10:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The website http://bitterjerksociety.org no longer exists. I checked the Wayback Machine - it's archived there from Nov 2002 to Jan 2006. It was a website apparently created by students (who presumably graduated and no longer have any interest in it). I agree - not notable, so I've removed it from the list. Smalljim 10:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spike (band)

My google search did not turn up a Spike band. Not sure if they meant Spike Ivory, Spike Milligan, Jones... I'm deleting this one. S. M. Sullivan 20:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

maybe its Spike band? 89.0.39.8 09:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
No, it clearly indicates (Band), i.e. musical band and not materialistic band. <3bunny 03:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Let the sun creep on you

What exactly is this? I googled it and found no results. <3bunny 03:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

But the Google Test is evil! (see below) Most likely nothing important, as it's sat on the requested articles list for so long – Qxz 11:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missilina Rei and Google

I noted the following about Missilina Rei on the project page.

Missilina Rei - as far as Google is concerned, doesn't actually seem to exist outside of Wikipedia's requested article pages and their mirrors

One should be very careful about this kind of reasoning. I did a Google search myself, for Missilina Rei -wikipedia [4], (note that Google is so friendly that it prioritizes results depending on your location within this world, in my case Norway) The top result was this [5] French article, (why I get French articles on top is still a conundrum to me). The article suggests that we are talking about a Japanese artist. In such case we are talking about transliterations, which can explains why so few articles exists with this name. Our best bet would be to search for similar sounding transliterations, or perhaps contact the person who wrote the forum entry in the above mentioned article. Bfg 12:36, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

A little more research reveals the following, "Missilina Rei" is another transliteration/misspelling of "Missalina Rei", see ja:Missalina_Rei Bfg 12:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Well, it was me that put the note there; I had my preferences set to return English results only, which I guess is a bad idea. (I also don't use Google.no, which your link points to, don't know if that makes any difference). So I only got four results, all of which were Wikipedia or its mirrors. I'll set it back to "any language". Thanks for finding that – Qxz 16:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not using google.no either, that was my point, even though I juse google.com it just chooses google.no, probably based on IP, or some criterion. Anyway, I have an issue with Google test, and it is precisely the bias it creates against certain issues. Google is great, but one needs to understand its limitations. On the other hand, if your comment hadn't ticked me off, I probably wouldn't have done this research either, so perhaps its a good thing to use the test. ;-)
Since my Japanese is a little bit rusty, I added this page to articles needing translation from Japanese Wikipedia:Translation/Missalina Rei. Hopefully they'll make an educated judgment as to whether this article should be included. Bfg 22:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I translated a source from Spanish for information on this group and wrote an article. It's very dependent on this one source, however, so please feel free to add to it. Pkeets 04:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Son-batá

Hi I am new to editing the wikipedia so sorry for any faux paus on my part, but this article Son-batá is now blue, so is it not better we remove it from this page ? Vijeth 13:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, it is done now, but in the future, do not hesitate to take action yourself. Bfg 20:15, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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