Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yale Alley Cats

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. W.marsh 22:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yale Alley Cats

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Non-notable college a cappella group. Successfully prod-ed then recreated, so bringing it here. Savidan 23:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete...delete...delete... or else provide WP:MUSIC criteria. The Rambling Man 23:24, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Google pulls up lots of unique hits, appears to be a notable and nationally-recognized a cappella group that is more than six decades old. Needs to be cleaned up, though. Aplomado ^talk 23:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - cool, it should stay if the clean-up includes providing WP:RS which allow WP:V of WP:N in order to meet WP:MUSIC. If this happens, let me know and I'll change my opinion here. The Rambling Man 00:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Google hits is not a WP:MUSIC criteria, nor is age. "Nationally-recognized" should be determined by sources, not word of mouth. Savidan 23:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - a lot of college a cappella groups got AfD'd recently, including one from Yale, and someone suggested creating a "music at Yale" page to deal with it (as well as all the other musically-oriented stuff Yale is known for.) -Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 08:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per consensual non-notability of student groups. I can find no trace of their CD in Amazon, and I suspect that it may be a self-published effort like for the vast majority of college a cappella groups. I have come across articles for them, but most of the hits appear to be events listings. Ohconfucius 08:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Aplomado. --Djsasso 18:46, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Why is this article categorized for deletion, but the other Yale undergraduate a cappella vocal ensembles are not categorized for deletion? There needs to be consistency in treating the well-established collegiate vocal groups.

Which other groups do you think are non-notable? You're free to nominate them yourself, or if you refer them to me (and I agree), I'll do it. Savidan 18:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

• Delete due to the lack of sources per WP:V. As the article stands I have no idea if being 'Friendship Citizens' is noteworthy enough to be reported or if 100s are handed out every week. Likewise the award nomination, does this require an independent party or the group applying themselves? Nuttah68 13:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless reliable sources appear for the information in the article. The group clearly exists, and has done for a while, and has a stack of google hits, and a couple of newspaper hits, but the article fails WP:V. Perhaps the idea mentioned by Dmz5 has legs? Mr Stephen 21:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.