Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Woodstock, Portland, Oregon

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 (talk) 01:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Woodstock, Portland, Oregon

It's a business directory. If someone wants to replace it with real encyc info, thats OK. Full disclosure: My neighborhood has its own article, but its not a standard houses-and-shops neighborhood. Jason McHuff 06:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, real neighborhood. Kappa 06:57, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: I don't have a problem with an article on Woodstock, its just that it needs to be a real article. Also, Eastmoreland is officially a seperate neighborhood. See this PDF for example. --Jason McHuff 08:40, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, we already have an article on Eastmoreland, Portland, Oregon which is the neighbourhood with 34,800 English pages returned see [1]. This is a business directory of local businesses and of limited interest. Capitalistroadster 07:20, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment: Woodstock and Eastmoreland are different neighborhoods. I'm not entirely sure about Woodstock's notability - the only claims to fame I know of is that one of the places to eat was featured on NPR's Delicious Dish, and that one of the bars in the area has supposedly served more Pabst than any other bar either in the US or on the West Coast or in Oregon or something like that. -Seth Mahoney 18:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, things can be real without being encyclopaedic. Take for instance the coffee cup on my desk, or my pen... Usrnme h8er 08:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per Capitalistroadster. "I recommend the flamming beef," indeed.... TheMadBaron 12:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete meat is murder. Dunc|☺ 14:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete WP:ISNOT a travel guide. -Splash^talk 23:02, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete this article, though an article about this neighbourhood would be appropriate for WP. Mindmatrix 17:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
• Cut out the stripmallcruft (which is about 95%) and keep the rest, which would be a fine neighborhood stub.--Pharos 08:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
• Delete --Nv8200p (talk) 01:48, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, improve and expand. We should aim for a fully encyclopedic article on every neighborhood on earth by 2105. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 00:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
• With WP:NOR WP:V WP:CITE in mind, what would be left if unsourced information were removed from this article? Are there any reliable sources that can be used to provide information on every neighborhood on earth? Or is Wikipedia just drifting away from source-based research?--66.101.59.18 06:31, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: I'm sure there are reliable sources on many of the neighborhoods on earth. Certainly, census and economic data is probably available. I know for a fact that crime-related information is provided on the internet on the Woodstock neighborhood (and every other neighborhood in Portland, Oregon). Much of this information is probably encyclopedic. The real question here would be how to go about including it, if that's what we want to do: Give each neighborhood a separate article, or include such information in city pages? -Seth Mahoney 07:09, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

• Actually, neighborhoods appear to be unknown to the US census. [2] In very many areas, "neighborhoods" are not well defined entities that enjoy official status. (Portland, Oregon appears to be exceptional in this respect). For example, {{Houston,_Texas}} seems confusingly and somewhat arbitrarily divided into "neighborhoods", "districts", and "communities", which overlap or are given contradictory locations (e.g. article on Little Saigon locates it along western Bellaire boulevard, while citing as support a source that describes its location in Midtown, a completely different part of town.) Whether a location is Montrose, or Neartown, or Museum District depends on who you ask. What constitutes a neighborhood can be highly subjective... so a goal of an encyclopedic article for every neighborhood on earth seems to be a strech. --66.101.59.18 09:07, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.