Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wily Python

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The result of the debate was delete. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:03, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wily Python

Reads like vanity. I might have thought it a description of a fictional character, but since "Wily Python Show" gets no Google hits at all -- draw your own conclusions. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:37, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• It seems to me that the above statement is very ironic. Dr. Robert

"The British Army has always fought the Wily Python" , British Officer to Lieutenant Goodbody in Richard Lester's movie "How I won the war" (1967) -- this comment is not by Dr. Robert but by 24.5.82.8, the author of the article. -- Antaeus Feldspar 02:18, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Non notable. --Woohookitty 02:17, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• "not delete" save as it expands knowledge that is important if in concept alone and that is the mission of Wikipedia. Dr. Robert

• • Boys. if defining and defending a concept is a problem for Wikipedia then argument and dialogue have become passe'. So please use your intellect and not your emotion.

• • • The above quotation,, "The British Army has always fought the Wily Python" is from Dr. Robert as he is also the author but perhaps because he is not as computer savvy as the above nay sayer Antaeus Feldspar he did not make that known. This is about expanding knowledge for the many. Dr. Robert

• • "The British Army has always fought the Wily Python" , British Officer to Lieutenant Goodbody in Richard Lester's movie "How I won the war" (1967)

The above information has been added to the section. Dr. Robert

• Delete Unless someone gives some reliable source. Paul August ☎

• • See the movie Mr. Paul August that is the reliable source. The movie "How I Won the War" is a classic anti-war movie and its DVD version was delayed because of the War On Iraq. The Wily Python is an integral concept to the anti-war message of the movie. Dr. Robert
• Comment -- I do not think one line, or one literary symbol or metaphor from one classic movie is a satisfactory, reliable amount of reference for Wikipedia. Zzyzx11 09:16, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. The article is poorly written even it is related to How I Won the War. As you can see, we don't have an article on this film yet which is referenced in A Day in the LifeCapitalistroadster 05:16, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Comment -- Did you notice that "Dr. Robert", 24.5.82.8, the author of the article, made a new entry called Dr. Robert? In his comments above, he wikified links to it. I just marked that article as Vfd. Zzyzx11 05:23, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Um, is Dr. Robert badly translating his own comments from a different language? Delete, nonsense. -R. fiend 06:13, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • Each entry confirm the validity of the Wily Python. You poor dears how I envy your misplaced certitude.
• Again, another "insightful" comment by 24.5.82.8. This person is another example of why the people of the San Francisco Bay Area, specifically Marin County, act strange in the eyes of the rest of the United States. Zzyzx11 06:45, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I cannot find any notable evidence in the San Francisco Bay Area media, where the Wily Python Show allegedly broadcasts from. Wikipedia is not a forum to post unsubstantiated claims. Zzyzx11 06:57, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • The subject: Wily Python, the references exist but perhaps personal attacks on people in Marin who overwhelmingly opposed the War ON Iraq are not warranted. Perhaps this is the real reason that the Wily Python is so troubling to the "rest" of the USA. My friend you can say what you will but your lack of generosity toward "the other" needs some introspection. Insults don't help. I am sure you meant no harm and it was just a habit that comes when one is isolated online. Certainly if we were face to face you would not speak this way about us. We can do better. Let us try. Your are forgiven.
• Comment -- Sorry, I was in the heat of the argument. I've been hearing too much of the talk show host on KGO radio in San Francisco on air from 2-4pm who frequently talks about the unusual behaviour of people in Marin. But back to the issue: Wikipedia requires notable claims and references from a neutral point of view. Zzyzx11 08:10, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Not notable, not validated, not googlable. Radiant! 09:49, Feb 19, 2005 (UTC)

After considered thought, I have renewed by subscription to Encyclopedia Britannica as my trusted source. You are right, the known world is so much safer than the unknown world. Having been chastised, I for one will no longer venture into the “non-googlable” unknown that goes on just outside my door. Thank you for the inspiration.

Good for you. I'm sure everyone will be much, much happier that you'll be pestering Encyclopedia Britannica and patronizing them instead of us, telling them that if only they were as pretentious intelligent as you, they'd be creating an article around a single line of dialogue from a single movie right away. -- Antaeus Feldspar 19:31, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It's a concept like "god is a concept" Perhaps you might even check out Rudyard Kipling as another concept references. "It is better not to know than to be unsure." Bravo young man.

Are you under the impression that we don't hear this line of argument for every inappropriate article we VfD? Hurry along, Encyclopedia Brittanica is tapping their watches and wondering when you're going to show up and explain all about how "God" and "Wily Python" are equivalent in importance. -- Antaeus Feldspar 21:02, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

This little line of mine I'm gonna let it shine. Pull the use of Wily Python as the owner of the Wily Python Show revoked your permission to use the Wily Python in any form without prior written permission

You do realize that: 1) you just admitted you invented the thing yourself, and, 2) the owner cannot dictate in what forums his invention is mentioned on the internet? -R. fiend 23:51, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)

That is not true but believe what you will. I just forewarned you about copyright issues. You're the lawyer; I am not.

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